Quartz Clock Question
Melting Slicks
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Either you've lost power or the hands are interfering "sticking" with each other.
Even if your quartz movement has a fast-slow adjustment (I've never heard of such) there's no way such would cause a six-hour error overnight!
Even if your quartz movement has a fast-slow adjustment (I've never heard of such) there's no way such would cause a six-hour error overnight!
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The clock has a slip clutch or "minute wheel with clutch" that has to be re-used, but if it's dirty or corroded it will bind up the gearing and cause the clock to run slow. Another issue is the grounding of the quartz movement... The standard movement ground has to cut through the painted inside housing and it has two barbed points but sometimes they don't make a good ground. When we quartz convert them we will clean off the paint where the ground will hit (8 min mark in the vid.) and we also bend the grounding tab backwards so that's it is almost like being spring loaded. Doing both of these helps insure you have a good constant ground.
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The clock has a slip clutch or "minute wheel with clutch" that has to be re-used, but if it's dirty or corroded it will bind up the gearing and cause the clock to run slow. Another issue is the grounding of the quartz movement... The standard movement ground has to cut through the painted inside housing and it has two barbed points but sometimes they don't make a good ground. When we quartz convert them we will clean off the paint where the ground will hit (8 min mark in the vid.) and we also bend the grounding tab backwards so that's it is almost like being spring loaded. Doing both of these helps insure you have a good constant ground.
Willcox
Willcox
Thanks everyone for the help and video!
Willcox, you guys are the best!
Russ
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If I took it out again, I'd connect a 12v source to it and run it overnight before I put it back together again. Six hours loss in a night would be noticeable in a very short time if you time it. It sounds more like it's stopping and starting to me. (loss of power or ground) If it doesn't work correctly connected externally to a 12v supply, I'd check on the warranty.
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If I took it out again, I'd connect a 12v source to it and run it overnight before I put it back together again. Six hours loss in a night would be noticeable in a very short time if you time it. It sounds more like it's stopping and starting to me. (loss of power or ground) If it doesn't work correctly connected externally to a 12v supply, I'd check on the warranty.
Thanks
Russ
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#1 Is the clock you are converting a Borg (Warner) clock? The quartz rebuild kit will only work on a Borg made clock.
#2 The kit comes with a choice of TWO gear sets, depending on what gears you have in your clock. The correct set must be installed for it to function right and/or keep accurate time.
#3 Check the proper function of any repair to clock or other gauges BEFORE you permanently reinstall it into the gauge bezel.
#2 The kit comes with a choice of TWO gear sets, depending on what gears you have in your clock. The correct set must be installed for it to function right and/or keep accurate time.
#3 Check the proper function of any repair to clock or other gauges BEFORE you permanently reinstall it into the gauge bezel.
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#1 Is the clock you are converting a Borg (Warner) clock? The quartz rebuild kit will only work on a Borg made clock.
#2 The kit comes with a choice of TWO gear sets, depending on what gears you have in your clock. The correct set must be installed for it to function right and/or keep accurate time.
#3 Check the proper function of any repair to clock or other gauges BEFORE you permanently reinstall it into the gauge bezel.
#2 The kit comes with a choice of TWO gear sets, depending on what gears you have in your clock. The correct set must be installed for it to function right and/or keep accurate time.
#3 Check the proper function of any repair to clock or other gauges BEFORE you permanently reinstall it into the gauge bezel.
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He said he REPLACED the original with a quartz, not rebuilt it. I replaced mine as well, and it works fine in the 3 months it has been in except two occasions, and then it did what his did, lost a bunch of hours. I assumed it was something that happened that didn't supply power to it, not sure what, but that sounds like what happened to him.
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He said he REPLACED the original with a quartz, not rebuilt it. I replaced mine as well, and it works fine in the 3 months it has been in except two occasions, and then it did what his did, lost a bunch of hours. I assumed it was something that happened that didn't supply power to it, not sure what, but that sounds like what happened to him.
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He said he REPLACED the original with a quartz, not rebuilt it. I replaced mine as well, and it works fine in the 3 months it has been in except two occasions, and then it did what his did, lost a bunch of hours. I assumed it was something that happened that didn't supply power to it, not sure what, but that sounds like what happened to him.
The clock started working (the second hand was spinning again) so I set the time and left the garage. The following day, I checked to see if the clock was still working and found that it was but the minute & hour hands were way off from the time it actually was.
I don't think I've lost power at any time, so it must be either the hands rubbing each other or the gear is not correct.
Like I said, it will be a winter project, along with some other small items.
Thanks
Russ
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All C2 and C3 clocks from 1963-1981 were Borg movement clocks. Westinghouse movements were primarily used in passenger cars. I don't think this is your issue but where did you get the movement? If it's a Instrument Cluster Services Movement what number did you purchase?
Charlie might be onto something so where did you get the movement?
I'd still check the clutch of the clock and make sure the ground is complete... and it's possible that you may have an issue with the clock circuit which could short out the new movement. I'd check that circuit for a draw before I hooked anything up to it.
Willcox