Where Does This Part Belong?
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Where Does This Part Belong?
1969 L46 no AC
Installing radiator and fender skirt seals and am at a loss as to where these seals/baffles go. .
In the photo the part at the bottom is an original from this car. The two shouldering the label are the new ones that came in the package from the good Dr. .I've scoured the AIM to no avail. Evidence of two 1/2 inch staples that held the original but to where? Thanks for any help, Rick
Installing radiator and fender skirt seals and am at a loss as to where these seals/baffles go. .
In the photo the part at the bottom is an original from this car. The two shouldering the label are the new ones that came in the package from the good Dr. .I've scoured the AIM to no avail. Evidence of two 1/2 inch staples that held the original but to where? Thanks for any help, Rick
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it shows you in the picture , just to the left (toward the front of the car ) of the top A arm unit ,it staples onto the bottom of the wheel well and is designed to seal the gap between the wheel well and the top of the frame in that area
Last edited by bazza77; Oct 13, 2016 at 05:46 PM.
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Hi 69,
There was one flap stapled to the bottom forward edge of the wheel-well apron to close the gap between the apron and frame.
The flap was on the engine compartment side of the apron, and the staples were driven from that side too.
Regards,
Alan
Left wheelwell apron
Right engine compartment side apron.
There was one flap stapled to the bottom forward edge of the wheel-well apron to close the gap between the apron and frame.
The flap was on the engine compartment side of the apron, and the staples were driven from that side too.
Regards,
Alan
Left wheelwell apron
Right engine compartment side apron.
Last edited by Alan 71; Oct 13, 2016 at 06:07 PM.
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Hi 69,
There was one flap stapled to the bottom forward edge of the wheel-well apron to close the gap between the apron and frame.
The flap was on the engine compartment side of the apron, and the staples were driven from that side too.
Regards,
Alan
Left wheelwell apron
Right engine compartment side apron.
There was one flap stapled to the bottom forward edge of the wheel-well apron to close the gap between the apron and frame.
The flap was on the engine compartment side of the apron, and the staples were driven from that side too.
Regards,
Alan
Left wheelwell apron
Right engine compartment side apron.
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Thanks Bazza. I see now. The illustration looked like it showed the extruded material included in the kit rather than the flap/baffle type. I'll look for the staple holes tomorrow. This part of the job is a bit tedious but still fun. Thanks, Rick
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Hi 69,
I've seen that extruded piece in the Dr's drawing too. I guess perhaps it was used at some point?
Extruded pieces that are similar to the seals on the 2 splash shields WERE used at the joint of the top of the apron to the underside of the hood surround.
It's all in fun!
Regards,
Alan
I've seen that extruded piece in the Dr's drawing too. I guess perhaps it was used at some point?
Extruded pieces that are similar to the seals on the 2 splash shields WERE used at the joint of the top of the apron to the underside of the hood surround.
It's all in fun!
Regards,
Alan
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did you get new staples in the pack ? I recall they sell black coloured stainless ones for NCRS and wont rust up . If your at the end of a resto , yes its the fun time when small additions get you noticeably closer to finish.
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Hi b77,
Sorry, but if staples were used, and they typically were, the staple holes are very obvious because of the size and shape of the holes they made in the fiberglass apron.
You can easily see them in the first picture I posted.
It's a quite straight forward job to use the same holes to install the new staples for the seals.
Also, I'm not familiar with the the NCRS requiring black staples… where is that information given?
Regards,
Alan
Sorry, but if staples were used, and they typically were, the staple holes are very obvious because of the size and shape of the holes they made in the fiberglass apron.
You can easily see them in the first picture I posted.
It's a quite straight forward job to use the same holes to install the new staples for the seals.
Also, I'm not familiar with the the NCRS requiring black staples… where is that information given?
Regards,
Alan
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I've been using plain steel wire to make staples. It came with the kit. Using a pin drill to go through the new material and using the original holes in the fiberglass (and sheetmetal in the case of the lower splash shields).
The AIM clearly shows the extruded material (same as the upper skirt seals) in the lower position against the frame but the evidence here shows that was not how it was actually done. It was in reality just like Alan's pictures using a flat "flap" rather than the extruded material. And in this case, two staples rather than the four that the AIM shows in that area. The extruded material would have needed all four staples but the "flap" would seem to be secure with just the two.
The AIM clearly shows the extruded material (same as the upper skirt seals) in the lower position against the frame but the evidence here shows that was not how it was actually done. It was in reality just like Alan's pictures using a flat "flap" rather than the extruded material. And in this case, two staples rather than the four that the AIM shows in that area. The extruded material would have needed all four staples but the "flap" would seem to be secure with just the two.
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Hi 69,
You're right, 2 staples would be sufficient.
I used the holes in the apron as a guide to where and how many staples were originally used.
Regards,
Alan
What I found is that the extruded seal really couldn't be used because the gap between the frame and apron was to high for it to actually make a seal.
You're right, 2 staples would be sufficient.
I used the holes in the apron as a guide to where and how many staples were originally used.
Regards,
Alan
What I found is that the extruded seal really couldn't be used because the gap between the frame and apron was to high for it to actually make a seal.
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Hi 69,
You're right, 2 staples would be sufficient.
I used the holes in the apron as a guide to where and how many staples were originally used.
Regards,
Alan
What I found is that the extruded seal really couldn't be used because the gap between the frame and apron was to high for it to actually make a seal.
You're right, 2 staples would be sufficient.
I used the holes in the apron as a guide to where and how many staples were originally used.
Regards,
Alan
What I found is that the extruded seal really couldn't be used because the gap between the frame and apron was to high for it to actually make a seal.
I really was puzzling over this yesterday. Since I had the old piece, I knew it had to go somewhere. I looked and looked and just couldn't find the spot. I just got the heat going in the garage. Going back out today to get some more of this sealing business taken care of. Thanks for your help.
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Hi b77,
Sorry, but if staples were used, and they typically were, the staple holes are very obvious because of the size and shape of the holes they made in the fiberglass apron.
You can easily see them in the first picture I posted.
It's a quite straight forward job to use the same holes to install the new staples for the seals.
Also, I'm not familiar with the the NCRS requiring black staples… where is that information given?
Regards,
Alan
Sorry, but if staples were used, and they typically were, the staple holes are very obvious because of the size and shape of the holes they made in the fiberglass apron.
You can easily see them in the first picture I posted.
It's a quite straight forward job to use the same holes to install the new staples for the seals.
Also, I'm not familiar with the the NCRS requiring black staples… where is that information given?
Regards,
Alan
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Hi 69,
You're right, 2 staples would be sufficient.
I used the holes in the apron as a guide to where and how many staples were originally used.
Regards,
Alan
What I found is that the extruded seal really couldn't be used because the gap between the frame and apron was to high for it to actually make a seal.
You're right, 2 staples would be sufficient.
I used the holes in the apron as a guide to where and how many staples were originally used.
Regards,
Alan
What I found is that the extruded seal really couldn't be used because the gap between the frame and apron was to high for it to actually make a seal.
