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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 12:15 PM
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Default Unpainted differential

Hello all,
I need some advice, i have a Rust diffenretial for a c3 pc 1978
I would like to have it clean / paint
Looking at the ncrs book, it is mentioned unpaintex cast iron

What is your advice, blasting and paint, clear coat, etc ?


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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 12:28 PM
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Are you going to have it NCRS judged, or do you just want it to look good?

If it will be 'judged', ask Alan71 or other NCRS members what is the best way to approach your "problem".

If not, wire brush all loose rust off the parts. Any items that are easily removable should be removed for manual cleaning (wire brush, chemical, etc), washing, and painting [either engine enamel 'clear' or some metal-colored paint]. Once loose rust is off the diffy, spray it with rust converter to prevent further rusting (and that will become a primer coating), then shoot VHT metal-colored paint to suit your taste.

I firmly believe in painting or coating EVERY BARE METAL PART so that they will clean up easily and never corrode.
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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 03:05 PM
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I know nothing of "NCRS correctness", but if you just want it to look nice, Eastwood makes a paint called Cast Blast. It looks like cast iron. I did my differential in this stuff, and it looks great.
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Hi A,
I'll start with the differential crossmember since that's an easy one. Semi-flat black.
There are lots of options for the differential case itself:
bare cast iron
bare cast iron with a protectorant like PreLube6.
Semi flat clear
Cast Blast.
If you decide on Cast Blast remember the finished product will look more original if the fasteners don't have paint on them. The same is true for the yokes and u-joints. You could use clear on those if you wish.
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Thoroughly cleaned with a brass brush and degreaser, then coated with CRC SP400 preservative. Have not removed/reapplied in 5 years.
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Thanks for the reply, nice pictures too
I don't want to be ncrs judged but i want to be as close as possible to the original
I will go with your advice
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Originally Posted by Afsafs
Thanks for the reply, nice pictures too
I don't want to be ncrs judged but i want to be as close as possible to the original
I will go with your advice
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I love a product called Rust Prevention magic. You can google it. It dries to the touch and has kept the differential in my 70 rust free for about 3 years and appears as cast new. My garage is not temperature or humidity controlled and it looks freshly cast.

It does require a heat gun to heat up the part being coated with the RPM.

Costs about $34 plus tax and freight.

Kind Regards,


Bill
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1974ta
I love a product called Rust Prevention magic. You can google it. It dries to the touch and has kept the differential in my 70 rust free for about 3 years and appears as cast new. My garage is not temperature or humidity controlled and it looks freshly cast.

It does require a heat gun to heat up the part being coated with the RPM.

Costs about $34 plus tax and freight.

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Great, thanks Bill
I will check
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I have another question,
Looking at the nice picture of spring
Mine is 9 leafs with zinc liners
I guess the leaf have to be paint grey, right ?
What about the zinc liners, i will replace them with new one, but do i paint them ?

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Hi Thierry,
Yes, paint.
Apparently both the spring leaves and the liners were originally painted gray.
Regards,
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I'm sure the spring 'pack' was painted [outside] as an assembled set. You don't want paint on the "working" surfaces of the spring or the liners...they are designed to 'slip' against each other. Paint on those [inner] surfaces would not work as intended (and would make a lot of paint flaking mess!).
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
I'm sure the spring 'pack' was painted [outside] as an assembled set. You don't want paint on the "working" surfaces of the spring or the liners...they are designed to 'slip' against each other. Paint on those [inner] surfaces would not work as intended (and would make a lot of paint flaking mess!).
Hi nice precision' agree but
My spring leafs have some old paint trace on inner side, it is not the case about liners
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BTW, wire brushing the rust out still leave some rust on the metal. Rust will come back one way or an other.

Media blasting the part is the correct way to get rid of the rust.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:27 AM
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Short of disassembling and blasting, I would use this with small/large wire brushes...

https://www.kbs-coatings.com/RustBlast.html

This will remove a lot of the rust and leave a good base for paint. The same company has a decent spray can primer called Fusion, it bonds really well.
Any spray can topcoat will melt off with spray brake/carb cleaners, fuel or oils, which is why I generally use an mcu

https://www.kbs-coatings.com/BlackTop.html

or this urethane


http://shop.masterseriesct.com/produ...3&categoryId=1

for a finish coat. Have to brush them or spray with a spray gun. But you can spray them with cleaners or get fuel/fluids on it without watching your new paint melt off.

That's going to be a lot of hand work to do it right, no getting around it. Allow a half day just for cleaning. Cleaners of your choice, scrub and rinse repeatedly, rustblast (or similar) a couple times, prime and paint.

Btw... are you going to replace those leaky stub axle and pinion seals and cover gasket while it's out?
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