C3 crash
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It would nice if life was easy, black and white. But, really there's not enough information provided by just this short clip. AND then we have those attorneys to screw everything up!
We rush to put the blame on another, when we don't know the complete story. Example, was one or several of the drivers under the influence. Is this one of those intersections that have two right turning lanes, I can't make it out? In any case, apparently this is a dangerous intersection, and some modifications are probably in order......
My wife took a quick look and blamed the vette driver....
It appeared to me that he was speeding. The truck driver was probably looking at the moron that sped past him, then started his right turn without really checking his mirror....Both, are wrong IMO.
We rush to put the blame on another, when we don't know the complete story. Example, was one or several of the drivers under the influence. Is this one of those intersections that have two right turning lanes, I can't make it out? In any case, apparently this is a dangerous intersection, and some modifications are probably in order......
My wife took a quick look and blamed the vette driver....
It appeared to me that he was speeding. The truck driver was probably looking at the moron that sped past him, then started his right turn without really checking his mirror....Both, are wrong IMO.
Burning Brakes
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From: Tolland CT
It would nice if life was easy, black and white. But, really there's not enough information provided by just this short clip. AND then we have those attorneys to screw everything up!
We rush to put the blame on another, when we don't know the complete story. Example, was one or several of the drivers under the influence. Is this one of those intersections that have two right turning lanes, I can't make it out? In any case, apparently this is a dangerous intersection, and some modifications are probably in order......
My wife took a quick look and blamed the vette driver.... It appeared to me that he was speeding. The truck driver was probably looking at the moron that sped past him, then started his right turn without really checking his mirror....Both, are wrong IMO.
We rush to put the blame on another, when we don't know the complete story. Example, was one or several of the drivers under the influence. Is this one of those intersections that have two right turning lanes, I can't make it out? In any case, apparently this is a dangerous intersection, and some modifications are probably in order......
My wife took a quick look and blamed the vette driver....
It appeared to me that he was speeding. The truck driver was probably looking at the moron that sped past him, then started his right turn without really checking his mirror....Both, are wrong IMO.From what I see, the C3 driver was in his lane, going straight. Anything else is an assumption.
The truck driver turned right from a center lane, crossing the right lane. I do not have to assume anything. These are facts.
Melting Slicks
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From: PA
It would nice if life was easy, black and white. But, really there's not enough information provided by just this short clip. AND then we have those attorneys to screw everything up!
We rush to put the blame on another, when we don't know the complete story. Example, was one or several of the drivers under the influence. Is this one of those intersections that have two right turning lanes, I can't make it out? In any case, apparently this is a dangerous intersection, and some modifications are probably in order......
My wife took a quick look and blamed the vette driver.... It appeared to me that he was speeding. The truck driver was probably looking at the moron that sped past him, then started his right turn without really checking his mirror....Both, are wrong IMO.
We rush to put the blame on another, when we don't know the complete story. Example, was one or several of the drivers under the influence. Is this one of those intersections that have two right turning lanes, I can't make it out? In any case, apparently this is a dangerous intersection, and some modifications are probably in order......
My wife took a quick look and blamed the vette driver....
It appeared to me that he was speeding. The truck driver was probably looking at the moron that sped past him, then started his right turn without really checking his mirror....Both, are wrong IMO.
It is very clear the truck was at fault. right turns from left lane is just wrong every where.
Last edited by FINWOLF; Jan 8, 2018 at 03:30 PM.
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From: nassau co. new york
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That, I will hands down agree with!
Wait, should I be offended you mentioned my wife and that she shouldn't drive?.............. Nah, I find your post hilarious!
Listen, no reason for us to argue over a 41(?) second video, of a situation we don't have anything to do with....
What or who's at fault, will be determined by "the system"......It's not always cut and dry like we would like it to be.....People, lawyers, witnesses, etc. and any other BS can be thrown into car wrecks.
Guess, we'll never know the final judgement on this anyway. I really couldn't care less.
Shame the vette got bent, but as they say accidents happen.
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Wait one more quick one, in Texas it is legal to make a right turn from the two right lanes if marked accordingly. I can't make out if this is the case here, the signs would facing away from the camera.
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From: MARSHALLVILLE OHIO
I have to say no matter whose fault there's a whole lot of bad driving out there. I do feel qualified to attest. A young girl failed to stop and totaled our Fusion. So being a little shy at intersections one night a guy waited till I was a C3 length away from me to pull out(how can you not see headlights) I thought I was real close to losing the Vette. About a month ago a guy pulled out in front of me from a side street slowed down never looked and kept coming. Sheriff friend of mine was running lights at night! Guy hit him and said " I didn't see any lights"
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Burning Brakes
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From: Alberta/Missouri....... depending when.
"Wait one more quick one, in Texas it is legal to make a right turn from the two right lanes if marked accordingly. I can't make out if this is the case here, the signs would facing away from the camera."
If that's the case, I guarantee you one thing, the outside lane would not have the option to go straight or turn. they would be turn only. Numerous cars went straight through in that lane. I doubt it was a double right turn. Just to throw some fuel on the debate, the truck comes out of the parking lot of the business across the street............ I wonder if it was a bar.
If that's the case, I guarantee you one thing, the outside lane would not have the option to go straight or turn. they would be turn only. Numerous cars went straight through in that lane. I doubt it was a double right turn. Just to throw some fuel on the debate, the truck comes out of the parking lot of the business across the street............ I wonder if it was a bar.
Last edited by Al T; Jan 8, 2018 at 06:43 PM.
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Almost totaled the DD today 3 times, it's a sign of the times.
1 : 2 turn lanes, me right , her left - 3rd car both, making a left turn. Light turns, we leave in a line of cars, she goes half way through the turn and decides she wants to go into the Parking lot on the right - makes a right turn - my other half still does not know how I missed her.
2: Parked at the curb (westbound) in her White Mercedes, I'm coming down the block westbound, 2 lanes in each direction - she makes a U turn in front of me, missed her by inches - other half still screaming.
3: My other half says go down to the turn signal (for left turn) it's been a strange day. I'm 3rd car at turn signal , 1 turn lane. Arrow comes on, lady in second lane (not a turn lane/ light still red for her)decides to make a U turn, missed her by inches.
This is normal, the truck didn't look / did not care and as usual a crash occurred.
Saw a BMW get creamed taking an exit on the parkway from the third lane by a car in the exit lane. Last Thursday.
No one cares they all think it's a video game until they get hurt.
1 : 2 turn lanes, me right , her left - 3rd car both, making a left turn. Light turns, we leave in a line of cars, she goes half way through the turn and decides she wants to go into the Parking lot on the right - makes a right turn - my other half still does not know how I missed her.
2: Parked at the curb (westbound) in her White Mercedes, I'm coming down the block westbound, 2 lanes in each direction - she makes a U turn in front of me, missed her by inches - other half still screaming.
3: My other half says go down to the turn signal (for left turn) it's been a strange day. I'm 3rd car at turn signal , 1 turn lane. Arrow comes on, lady in second lane (not a turn lane/ light still red for her)decides to make a U turn, missed her by inches.
This is normal, the truck didn't look / did not care and as usual a crash occurred.
Saw a BMW get creamed taking an exit on the parkway from the third lane by a car in the exit lane. Last Thursday.
No one cares they all think it's a video game until they get hurt.
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Melting Slicks
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when I seen your Avatar of Don I knew you would understand my joke. We also have double right hand turns where I'm from but not at that corner. looks like the red car slowed down when the truck was going to turn in front of him then he gassed it to get around the truck. The vette had no chance he was hit in the rear quarter. Just a shame the vette was hit.
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Was the truck in a lane? If he was then he was in the left lane out of three lanes. Vette was in the right lane.
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when I seen your Avatar of Don I knew you would understand my joke. We also have double right hand turns where I'm from but not at that corner. looks like the red car slowed down when the truck was going to turn in front of him then he gassed it to get around the truck. The vette had no chance he was hit in the rear quarter. Just a shame the vette was hit.
You're showing you age.....
It's nice of you to post those words, too many, just don't get it!
You know, those, opinionated, talentless, lazy, no good, good for nothing hacks.....You know, we met years ago, maybe ten or more? It was at the Road Angels, Moravian Tile Car Show, not long after I got into the Corvette hobby. When I saw your car, I was blown away! It's not the typical slapped together, crap modified vette your more common to see! It would be welcome in my garage!
Cool to see you've held on to it through the years!
Mr. Finwolf, you have a great day!
Melting Slicks
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You're showing you age.....
It's nice of you to post those words, too many, just don't get it!
You know, those, opinionated, talentless, lazy, no good, good for nothing hacks.....You know, we met years ago, maybe ten or more? It was at the Road Angels, Moravian Tile Car Show, not long after I got into the Corvette hobby. When I saw your car, I was blown away! It's not the typical slapped together, crap modified vette your more common to see! It would be welcome in my garage!
Cool to see you've held on to it through the years!
Mr. Finwolf, you have a great day!
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From: Lakeland Florida
I also think the truck is at fault. They were trying to turn right from the left hand turn lane. Blinker on or not, they should have gone straight, or turned to get on the road they wanted. Not cut across the lanes at the light.
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I am not that sure the truck is responsibe.
Look at the BEGINNING: where he is coming from (is he allowed to do that?), he has no other choice.
Now he is turning, and the C3 is passing from the right, at quite high speed.
I really would not bet the truck is responsible.
Look at the BEGINNING: where he is coming from (is he allowed to do that?), he has no other choice.
Now he is turning, and the C3 is passing from the right, at quite high speed.
I really would not bet the truck is responsible.
Drifting
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From: Hamilton Virginia
The truck came out of a parking lot across the street into it looks to be a center turning lane. He looks to be attempting to turn into that gas on the right ans in doing so, he will have to cross 2 lanes going straight. The red car had actually slowed down and saw what the truck was doing but since the truck hadn't moved the red car sped up and passed him. The truck most likely did not look back to see if he was clear, and pulled in front of the corvette. It does not look as the corvette even tried to slow down.
The truck is at fault imo.
The truck is at fault imo.
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I don't understand the debate about this....this is a no brainer. The truck pulled into the right lane planning to turn from a position not legally allowed. Why is anyone questioning this? Crazy.
And I am not supporting the Corvette owner simply because I am a Corvette owner. Nothing to do with that.
And I am not supporting the Corvette owner simply because I am a Corvette owner. Nothing to do with that.
