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2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
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stalling isnt a cause of the starting issue...its a sympton of not trying to drop the clutch , spin the wheels and roar up that hill leaving to thick black lines like a corvette should....LOL
I can’t find a thing even after following up a number of wires so next time it does it, I’m going to short circuit the clutch safety switch and see what happens
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
2019 C3 of Year Winner (performance mods)
2016 C3 of Year Finalist
Did you adjust the ignition switch under the steering column?
When you turn the key you need to watch which way the key goes and move it so the rod has more effect in pushing or pulling the switch
That switch is mounted on top of the column, just behind the dash pad. It would be a bugger to adjust without pulling the dash or dropping the column.
bottom line however. What are the odds the switch is only out of adjustment when you stall it?
If this were my car. I'd get under her and install a wire on the small terminal of the starter solenoid. The start post as it were. Run that wire into the cab. Connect it to a light socket. Old tail light socket or similar. And then of course the other wire of the socket to a good ground.
Then test. When ever your turn the key to start. The light will light up as the starter engages. Now you have a way to tell if the problem is in the wiring or the starter. Stall it on purpose. Does the light light up when you hit start? If yes but the starter doesn't turn. The issue is in the starter. If no. The issue is indeed in the switch or wiring. And if no. Move your hot wire from the solenoid to maybe the clutch switch. Keep going till you narrow it down.
That switch is mounted on top of the column, just behind the dash pad. It would be a bugger to adjust without pulling the dash or dropping the column.
bottom line however. What are the odds the switch is only out of adjustment when you stall it?
If this were my car. I'd get under her and install a wire on the small terminal of the starter solenoid. The start post as it were. Run that wire into the cab. Connect it to a light socket. Old tail light socket or similar. And then of course the other wire of the socket to a good ground.
Then test. When ever your turn the key to start. The light will light up as the starter engages. Now you have a way to tell if the problem is in the wiring or the starter. Stall it on purpose. Does the light light up when you hit start? If yes but the starter doesn't turn. The issue is in the starter. If no. The issue is indeed in the switch or wiring. And if no. Move your hot wire from the solenoid to maybe the clutch switch. Keep going till you narrow it down.
Good call. I’ll stall it tomorrow and see what happens
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
2019 C3 of Year Winner (performance mods)
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You may have to pull the drivers seat to get at easier. The steering colmn should only be 2 or 4 bolts holding it up.
When you do your test stall today, first try starting it like you were doing, then turn it all the way off so you can take the key out, then restart it....if that does it its just the adjustment
UPDATE - no issues for a little while and then it started to do it on a regular basis. Don’t need to stall it to make it happen now. Just doing it randomly.
Go out one day and it cranks, go out an hour later and it doesn’t crank (like I haven’t got my foot on the clutch) Go out 10 minutes later and nothing, go out 30 min after that and it will crank. No rhyme or reason.
Started by shorting out my clutch switch and nothing changes.
Dropped the steering column and played with the ignition switch and it seems fine. Put it all back together and it started. Next day went for a drive and it cranked and then stopped at a gas station and nothing. Wouldn’t crank. Had to push start it.
So I got a trouble light and there is power to the starter. Got someone to sit in the car, depress the clutch and try to crank it and it has power on the other side of the starter when you try and crank it.
Please explain, the other side of the starter.
your getting power to the small terminal when key is turned to start? Your getting power to the other large terminal on the solenoid? Not the one the battery cable connects to, but the other large terminal? When this happens do your hear, feel the solenoid engage?
Please explain, the other side of the starter.
your getting power to the small terminal when key is turned to start? Your getting power to the other large terminal on the solenoid? Not the one the battery cable connects to, but the other large terminal? When this happens do your hear, feel the solenoid engage?
Sounds like I’m missing one.
Power to large side of the solenoid which is connected to the batter as you’d expect.
When I turn the key to crank it over with the clutch pressed in I get power to the little one with the one wire connected to it.
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
2019 C3 of Year Winner (performance mods)
2016 C3 of Year Finalist
When it wont start, next time tap the solenoid with handle of a hammer...its sounds like you have a bad solenoid...ITs very common on all GM style starters. As kids we all carried something long enough to tap a starter if we turned the key and nothing happened...You can invest in a new solenoid, they are cheap, or invest in a good gear reduction starter for easier and quicker starts
When it wont start, next time tap the solenoid with handle of a hammer...its sounds like you have a bad solenoid...ITs very common on all GM style starters. As kids we all carried something long enough to tap a starter if we turned the key and nothing happened...You can invest in a new solenoid, they are cheap, or invest in a good gear reduction starter for easier and quicker starts
Went out this morning and it started!
What brand / type is a good gear reduction starter to use?
If you get power to the small terminal when you turn the key. But hear no noise whatsoever and your not getting power to the other large terminal. It is indeed just your solenoid playing up. You can walk into any major auto parts store and just purchase a new solenoid. Get the one with the brown cap.
and just swap out the solenoid. This will repair your issue for the lowest cost. Unless of course I was there. I commonly rebuild these. But we won't go into that here.
Jebby is always recommending a gear reduction starter he likes. I'll see if I can dig that up for you. Jebby knows these things!
I'm pretty sure this is the starter. I saved it for the "just in case" file.
But me, I'd just replace the solenoid. But hey, I can rebuild a starter. Perhaps this might be the right way out for you.
