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Old 04-29-2024, 10:15 PM
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hey folks, I need your advice.

I have a very well preserved 69 coupe (L46 350/350) that was originally in Florida (introduced here). The first owner there decided to do some modification to the carburetor... so now I have a chokeless doublepumper, which has 2 mechanical primaries. I live in washington and I need a choke. Vacuum advance is also disconnected... not that it matters too much, but I don't like modifications that don't improve the car.

This is no hotrod and I don't need to get any special performance out of this car, I plan to use it to cruise around and to maintain it over time. I'd like to keep this to the day I die.
If it wasn't for the fact that everyone says the original quadrajet is garbage, I'd go for it. But, given that Quadrajet is garbage I was planning to go for a Holley and I was wondering if it was worth going for a new doublepumper with electrical choke or if it was better to go for a vacuum secondary, which is easier to maintain and I won't notice (I guess) the power decrease (it is also about half the price).

What would you recommend? Any other option that you would recommend?
Old 04-30-2024, 07:17 AM
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First; Did the previous owner change the intake manifold? My guess is he did from the Holley carburetor you describe which is most likely a square bore whereas a Quadrajet is spread bore. If trying to keep costs down…meaning not changing the intake manifold, would think a new Holley would be the most cost effective option, probably one in the 650 CFM range. I’ll leave it to other’s recommendations for good Holley for your engine.
If you want to bring it back to original, a Quadrajet…tuned by Lars…mated to a spreadbore manifold would be a good combination.

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Get a good, correct Qjet and have it overhauled by Lars. Be sure to let him bless it before you purchase any carb. Not exactly cheap for the core, but you will only cry once. Next best would be a "close to correct" serviceable Qjet set up by Lars.

Holleys are easy to get, easy to service but a proper Qjet is great, easy to live with, "closed hood" type carb.
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Originally Posted by voidusa
But, given that Quadrajet is garbage
Someone has blown a lot of smoke up you... It'll run circles around that badly tuned Holley.... The '69 350/350 Q-Jet is one of the best carbs ever installed on a musclecar.

Originally Posted by voidusa
I have a chokeless doublepumper, which has 2 mechanical primaries.
All carbs have mechanical primaries. Sounds like you need to educate yourself a little bit about carbs. You also need to determine if the person who installed the Holley also installed a square-bore intake, or if you have a Q-Jet spreadbore intake with an adapter. You need to install the correct intake for the carb you choose to run - square bore and spreadbore carbs and manifolds are not interchangeable. This will affect costs, so this may drive and limit your decisions.

Originally Posted by voidusa
I have a very well preserved 69 coupe (L46 350/350)
Well, it's not going to be very "well preserved" if you hack it up with a Holley install... But to each his own - if you're wanting to build a custom car out of your 350/350, customize away...

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Old 04-30-2024, 04:45 PM
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The correct restored Quadrajet by Lars would be unbeatable if you still have the stock manifold

Holley style I prefer vacuum secondaries on street and this would be a real good one
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Street double pumper I have a couple customers with these that seem to work well
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Edelbrock AVS2 650 is not a terrible choice either as far as aftermarket
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Originally Posted by lars
Someone has blown a lot of smoke up you... It'll run circles around that badly tuned Holley.... The '69 350/350 Q-Jet is one of the best carbs ever installed on a musclecar.
this is interesting. I totally believe you. Looks like I found bad information online. I'm not familiar with American engines , I am still learning a lot. And my learning source is forums/sites.

Originally Posted by lars
All carbs have mechanical primaries. Sounds like you need to educate yourself a little bit about carbs. You also need to determine if the person who installed the Holley also installed a square-bore intake, or if you have a Q-Jet spreadbore intake with an adapter. You need to install the correct intake for the carb you choose to run - square bore and spreadbore carbs and manifolds are not interchangeable. This will affect costs, so this may drive and limit your decisions.
I definitely need to educate myself (main reason I am here). What I learned by posting pictures of my carb in this forums is that it is a "Frankestein" where a 2nd primary has been used to make a "secondary". I will check the intake to confirm whether I have spreadbore or square bore.

Originally Posted by lars
Well, it's not going to be very "well preserved" if you hack it up with a Holley install... But to each his own - if you're wanting to build a custom car out of your 350/350, customize away...
well... some mess with carburation has been made, but everything else is really well maintained.
I am planning to keep this as stock as possible but I don't want a garage queen, I want to drive it so I am willing to consider compromises where it makes sense (i.e. I think electric choke is almost a must if I want to buy a new carb).


thanks all for the replies. This is a journey, I'm learning
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Step one. Remove the Carburetor from the intake manifold. 4 nuts and or bolts. A cable, maybe 2. And some vacuum lines. And it's off. Take a pic of the pad it mounts to and post up on here.
Then we can make suggestions. Lars is THE Guy when it comes to the correct Quadrajet carb for your car. But if the intake has been changed. Then there are other ways to solve your problem.
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I put a Holley Street Avenger on my 72 LT-1 but it came with a Holley. I hear the Truck Avenger carbs are good too. If you actually have a Quadrajet manifold the stay with a Quadrajet.
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Chiming in with my experience on my 69 (all-original on my purchase last September)…
it is absolutely worth it to use a well-prepared Q-Jet, as others have stated, especially if prepared by Lars, or Cliff Ruggles’ shop. I personally rebuilt the carb, using Cliff’s & Lars’ suggestions… it was night and day difference in response & driveability. If it has a square bore manifold then it MAY be best to use a Holley, if so keep the single pumper unless you’re making over 400 HP. KISS principal.
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Originally Posted by lars
Someone has blown a lot of smoke up you... It'll run circles around that badly tuned Holley.... The '69 350/350 Q-Jet is one of the best carbs ever installed on a musclecar.


All carbs have mechanical primaries. Sounds like you need to educate yourself a little bit about carbs. You also need to determine if the person who installed the Holley also installed a square-bore intake, or if you have a Q-Jet spreadbore intake with an adapter. You need to install the correct intake for the carb you choose to run - square bore and spreadbore carbs and manifolds are not interchangeable. This will affect costs, so this may drive and limit your decisions.


Well, it's not going to be very "well preserved" if you hack it up with a Holley install... But to each his own - if you're wanting to build a custom car out of your 350/350, customize away...
Look at the pictures in this other post, number 4. He has a primary metering block installed on the secondary side and the carburetor has a disconnected mechanical choke. Appears to be aftermarket intake.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1607675087

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