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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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That's pretty neat who makes those? If your not shifting at the right time you can play around with the springs on the govenor to raise or lower the shift points.

But why is the TV cable pulled so far out? Does it have to be this way to keep enough line pressure for the transbrake?
The TV cable is not pulled out at all.. It's a universal cable and the wire was longer than needed.. Just haven't cut off the remaining wire...
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How did you adjust the cable?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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How did you adjust the cable?
I just attached it with no tension on it.. When I'm at full throttle, the TV cable is also pulled out completely.. Seems to be exactly the way it's supposed to be.. I've also read somewhere that the TH200 TV setup is self -adjusting.. whatever that means...
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The way that it self adjusts is first push in the button and push the plunger all the way in, hook up the cable and rotate the throttle to wide open, the cable will ratchet out to the correct lenght. (self adjust) I don't know how it will work or if it will work on your setup with all the extra cable. Why not just order a correct cable from BTO, they are not that expensive. You might want to have a trans guy look at the way you have it setup just to make sure it's safe to run it that way. With the throttle fully closed you don't want to have any slack what so ever in the cable and actually a slight bit of tension on it. The way it works is the more the cable is pulled the more pressure it puts on the clutches and it has to be timed just right to work correctly with the different valves in the valve body. If it's not right, the trans will burn itself up very quickly, I'm talking about just a few miles as in 1-5.

For peace of mind I would just order the correct cable. Trans are expensive, cables aren't

BTW who makes your trans? They have a website? I'm interested in reading up on the transbrake
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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I just attached it with no tension on it.. When I'm at full throttle, the TV cable is also pulled out completely.. Seems to be exactly the way it's supposed to be.. I've also read somewhere that the TH200 TV setup is self -adjusting.. whatever that means...
That cable is the brains of a 2004r. Check out this site Olivier and you'll see what I mean. It's from BTO.
http://www.tvmadeez.com/4100_cam/
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDIEJ82
The way that it self adjusts is first push in the button and push the plunger all the way in, hook up the cable and rotate the throttle to wide open, the cable will ratchet out to the correct lenght. (self adjust) I don't know how it will work or if it will work on your setup with all the extra cable. Why not just order a correct cable from BTO, they are not that expensive. You might want to have a trans guy look at the way you have it setup just to make sure it's safe to run it that way. With the throttle fully closed you don't want to have any slack what so ever in the cable and actually a slight bit of tension on it. The way it works is the more the cable is pulled the more pressure it puts on the clutches and it has to be timed just right to work correctly with the different valves in the valve body. If it's not right, the trans will burn itself up very quickly, I'm talking about just a few miles as in 1-5.

For peace of mind I would just order the correct cable. Trans are expensive, cables aren't

BTW who makes your trans? They have a website? I'm interested in reading up on the transbrake
I'm pretty sure that the TV cable is adjusted correctly... If I would have any more tension on it, it would prevent me from getting full throttle on the carb.. The way it's setup - both, carb and TV cable are completely open (pulled out at the TV cable) under full throttle..

My tranny builder is Art Carr's new business:

http://www.cpttransmission.com
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I'm pretty sure that the TV cable is adjusted correctly... If I would have any more tension on it, it would prevent me from getting full throttle on the carb.. The way it's setup - both, carb and TV cable are completely open (pulled out at the TV cable) under full throttle..

My tranny builder is Art Carr's new business:

http://www.cpttransmission.com
OK thats definatly not right, you should be able to pull the ratchet out some even at WOT. The right lenght cable uses the ractchet and presets the load on the TV valve. These cable operated A4's are very finicky about the cable adjustment, get the right cable before you drive it and burn it up. That's my advice but I know how headstrong you are and it's your trans, do with it what you want.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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I also have the Lokar setup. However, I had to kinda rig the pedal end. How did you attach the pedal end on your car. Can you get a pic on the net. Thanks......MoneyPit
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Originally Posted by EDDIEJ82
That's my advice but I know how headstrong you are and it's your trans, do with it what you want.
I think the correct word is stubborn. I also think that your advice & the advice of others in this thread is good & should be considered. But I'm sure that Oliver has made his mind up before he even posted this thread.
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
I just attached it with no tension on it.. When I'm at full throttle, the TV cable is also pulled out completely.. Seems to be exactly the way it's supposed to be.. I've also read somewhere that the TH200 TV setup is self -adjusting.. whatever that means...
You should see a couple PSI increase with the cable disconnected to connected, if not, then it isn't set up right. Plain and simple. When you have the pan off and the cable hooked up the lever should be lightly touching the TV piston in the valve body. By the looks of it, it is set up WRONG. You will nuke your new transmission. That does not appear to be one of the self adjusting racheting cables like the stock has. It appears to be the same cable that I have. Get your angles right and make sure it works properly. Use a pressure gauge and test it.
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You should see a couple PSI increase with the cable disconnected to connected, if not, then it isn't set up right. Plain and simple. When you have the pan off and the cable hooked up the lever should be lightly touching the TV piston in the valve body. By the looks of it, it is set up WRONG. You will nuke your new transmission. That does not appear to be one of the self adjusting racheting cables like the stock has. It appears to be the same cable that I have. Get your angles right and make sure it works properly. Use a pressure gauge and test it.
Can I use the same pressure gauge that is used to test engine compression?? (0 - 300 psi)

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Very nice GS. I think I may have to order one of those now too
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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Ok Oliver, Please read these. I hope they convince you that the TV cable does more than go in and out. The correct geometry of the pull is extremly important on A4's, 700's or 200's. On a performance trans it even narrows the margin for mistake.

I know a lot of people have been picking on you latley about how your work LOOKS, I'm not picking on you. I can clearly see something WRONG and am trying to stop you from NUKING the trans. At least read up on it before you decide if your setup is right or not.

I know some of these articles are about 700R4's but the TV cable sets up exactly the same on both trans.

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sum...o/700R4p1.html

http://www.classictrucksweb.com/tech/0307cl_cable/

http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...878/index.html

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Can I use my 0 - 300 compression tester?
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Maybe the gauge itself but you'll need 6-7' of hydrolic hose with the correct end to hook it up.

I think TCI sells the whole gauge and hoses in a kit. Do a search on their website
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Don't want to wait to get it shipped... I'll have to find one locally.. Auto Parts stores should have those..
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
The part number is TC-1000HT

The bracket is not included.. I actually got my bracket with the transmission because it also has the bracket for the TV cable..
Personally I don't like brackets that mount to the carb with only one of the nuts/bolts, especially for the throttle cable. You can never get them tight enough, it seems, to prevent the throttle cable bracket from rotating forward after several application of the throttle. Dunno, though. Maybe this one will work. Does it have some kind of tab underneath that prevents this?

Oh, the throttle return springs. Shop around and find a set that gives you a good feel. You won't pass tech with only one and you'll save unnecessary wear and tear on your throttle shaft bushings if you have tension on both sides instead of just one.
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Grease gun hose has 1/8" NPT fittings on it. I used that and a NPT to brake adapter and used a chunk of hard line to run the gauge up to the engine bay. An air gauge won't work. You're measuring a fluid. Hydraulic pressure gauges are usually like 0-5000psi, not accurate enough. What you'd want is this gauge used in farming, starts with an A, measures fluid pressure, can't think of it. Goddamnit. Just get a gauge that measures fluid pressure.
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GS how does it attach to the carb? Does it come with anything for the carb end? My new BG Mighty Demon didn't come with anything for the throttle cable.

Also, how does it attach to the gas pedal?
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I've got the same style. Works fine

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