I would say a simple way of doing it would be: Engine/drive-trane, wiring and suspension would go in the Tech

Body, interior, weather strips, T-Tops, hood and any topic related to Vettes (Not mechanical) would go inthe General section.








www.bigdogvettes.com

 

Its the second most active section in the whole forum. Only the OT section has more posts.

 

1st Section "NO Engine/Transmission Discussions"

2nd "Engine/Transmission Discussions"

this gives clarity to what goe in each section, no gray area. Used this on another forum for Dodge TDR and it works fine.

General and Technical is too GENERAL so you will have to go to both, so there is no advantage to it, it will be a pain in the butt.

 

How about this:
If it requires tools, it's tech
If no tools are needed, it's general
Joe
ps a sponge and chamois are not tools

 

Man , everbody sure seems to like this thread, oh well if you can't beat-m-join -m...In the Navy if it required a measurement or a calculation , it was concidered a techinical job and required a specialist. If there was nothing to calculate it was grunt work...like painting the bulkhead..just General.

But I gotta ask.....Will there be demerits awarded for improper posting? And how many demerits does it take to get banned for life? I realize I'm kinda high on the flesh list.....but I'd hate to get banned for miss posting.....

 

I guess I dont see why this is so hard. I came over from the C4 section -- where it is split. Never seemed that big of an issue. Sure, sometimes, someone would probably put a "gray" topic in the wrong one, but I dont remember any flame spraying.

Enjoying my research here in the C3 section. Last time I went back and forth between the C3/C4. The next one will be a C3 like I shoulda done the first time.

Seriously, the split or not split just doesnt seem that hard. Are the C4/5/6 guys just that much smarter that they can keep it separate?

My .02.

 

THANK YOU

 

Troy!

It's nice to see your open to discussing this issue and more importantly willing to consider the thoughts of other Forum members with regard to this hot potato of a topic.

It seems to me that most of us fall into the following groups depending on what our interest is on any particular day

1. People who own stock or basically stock Vettes that have repair or restoration issues

2. People who enjoy modifying, customizing or racing their Vette

3. People who want to find parts for their Vette or want to sell parts to someone who has a Vette.

4. People who are looking to purchase a Vette.

5. People who are interested in new member intros, jokes, have some news of some kind, Ebay finds & other general interest topics

If my observations are accurate in general than it should follow that the sections might be best divided into a minimum of these five catagories in order to facilitate organization and thread retention/longevity. All you have to do is look at the C4, C5 & C6 sections to get a basic idea of where to start. As for my personal interests, I might go a step further and divide the sections as follows

1. C3 Parts for sale/free
2. C3 Parts wanted
3. C3 Vettes for sale/wanted
4. C3 Technical chat (general repair)
5. C3 Technical chat (factory correct)
6. C3 Performance/Upgrades/Modification
7. C3 Racing
8. C3 General/Introductions/OT

As with any change, there is a certain segment of the population that will resist whether it be due to a genuine concern, a perceived inconveinance or resistance for the sake of resistance. My biggest fear is that the second someone is thought to post in the wrong section that the nay-sayers will become hostile and say, "I told you so!" We should all realize that some posts will cross sections, some people will post in the wrong section by mistake including new members and other times a post may encompass information that belongs in multiple sections. For those of us who support a split, our goal is not to completely eliminate posts from a given section it is simply to attempt to bring some additional order to the way posts are made, read & searched for. It is wholly unrealistic to expect a split to solve every problem and to keep perfect order. I'm not too sure any of us would even enjoy spending time here if we felt that we would be sanctioned or ridiculed if we "mis-posted"

I recently ran across another Corvette forum and this is how the C3 section was split up. It was pretty easy to find whatever I wanted to find.

C3 General
C3 Technical
C3 Auto-Crossing
C3 Drag racing
C3 Customs
C3 Models and Die-Cast
C3 Parts for Sale/Wanted
C3’s For Sale/Wanted
C3 Pictures
C3 Videos

I also thought I'd do some research on total number of vehicles produced for a given body style. I was interested to see which body style best pontentially represented the majority of Corvette owners and therefore which of the forums should expect to see the most total traffic. My thought was that whichever possessed the greatest potential for traffic probably required the most diversification in order to keep everything easy to navigate. Here are the results:

C1 = 53-62 (10 year production) 69,015 units
C2 = 63-67 (5 year production) 117,966 units
C3 = 68-82 (15 years production) 542,861 units
C4 = 84-96 (13 years production) 358,180 units
C5 = 97-04 (8 years production) 249,182 units (Approximate)
C6 = 05- ( >1 year production) ?

Given the numbers it appears that the C3 exceeded C4 (the next highest production) by some 184,681 units, yet, the C4, C5 & C6 forums are organized far better for the total number of those potentially viewing those forums. All things being equal including % of deceased Vettes for a given body style and EVEN if you were to deduct the 184,681 surplus C3's I have a hard time understanding why the C3 section is not at least equal to that of it's lesser produced siblings.

Some additional research led to some more interesting information. Here are the Corvette Forum stats with regard to total posts by section

C1/C2 158,988 Posts
C3 883,024 Posts
C4 1,335,189 Posts
C5 1,444,965 Posts

I did a bit of looking around when I totaled the scores in order to try to explain the disparity between number of cars produced and total number of posts. Here's what I found most notable

1. That C3 owners frequent the GENERAL section which includes topics such as factory correct, engine mods, autocross & racing. Since the C4, C5 & C6 owners have similar topics in their sections, they don't have the same need to frequent this area.

2. That it appears that a large number of C3 owners visit the C5 & C6 sections to get the latest on the new cars.

3. That the separation of topics in the C4, C5 & C6 sections appear to facilitate posting. The threads are much easier to follow and generate a significant number of replies. simply said, the topics do not get buried as quicky.

I know change is difficult ( I hate it in general myself) but I do not see a split as a loss. I prefer to look at it as an improvement of what we all know is the best Corvette related forum on the internet. I say give it a try (we can always change it back) and see how we like it and how it affects forum traffic. Were getting bigger and bigger guys and that's a good thing for everyone including our sponsors.

If anything is going to hurt us, it is the heated disagreements, name calling and the bad feelings that result from debating this topic. When I purchased my Corvette I realized almost immediately I belonged to an extended family. I've had several makes and models and still do but there are no other people like Corvette people. So.....lets mend some fences and try not to be afraid to take that first step toward change (we'll get through it together).

STW!

Platato

 

I hate wading through nonsense in order to find meaning. The only thing I hate worse is wading through bureaucracy in order to get action. Labeling topics will work and we can blow off the multitudinous subsectioning.

 

Don't make it confusing.
When scanning through titles, you always have the opportunity skip pass the ones you don't care to read. Users will create more descriptive titles if they get little or no responses .

 

The C3 sections are usually more entertaining than OT too.

 

Ya know i had to separate all my own files on corvettes and cars just to be able to find my saved information. I would like to see at least what the other C-sections have. But my major files are Mechanical and Body separated. A Disscussion section would be a must as would a For Sale. While a large list would be convienent - trans, carbs, doors, cooling, steering, etc. - it would not be resonable for our C3 section - too many sections would lose attention.
So my vote goes for Disscusion, Mechanical, Body, C3 Cars For Sale, Parts For Sale.
Thanks for your interest and efforts Troy. cardo0

 

at least recently

 

Here is a sampling of what is in that "other" Forum's C3 General section today:
Turbocharging questions.....
Door lock problems.....
Bumper replacement/fit/paint.....
Oil pump/main seal inspection/replacement.....
Wheel adaptors.....

Most of these topics sound like they are technical in-nature, don't they?

These are a few topics in that "other" Forum's C3 Tech and Performance section today:
Paint job prices.....
Which Shark do you prefer.....
Is the C3 a Sports-Car or Muscle-Car.....
Aftermarket stereo effect resale value of C3s.....

Most of these threads sound like they are 'general', don't they?

Yeah, THIS sounds like improvement.....

 

To me, wheel backspacing is a TECHNICAL SPECIFCATION. How do my new wheels look? = general.

I think project pics of a frame off or motor install should be technical.

And you KNOW as soon as Olivier posts pics of a project, it might start technical in nature, then turn into general or off topic when the ribbing begins.

The intent might be good, but don't expect it to work 100%. The lines WILL be blurred.

 

I still think that 3 sections would be ideal.

1. C3 General Discussion

2. C3 Tech & Mechanical

3. C3 Body & Restoration


Ultimately it is Troy's decision.

Personally I think there has been enough discussion on this.

Time to make the decision.

In the end ya can't please everyone.

 

Well, it appears for the moment at least this thread is still alive. I am very disappointed at the locking of the other thread. I was really interested to watch the poll numbers. Hopefully there will be an explanation coming as to why it was locked. I think an explanation is crucial given the hostility this subject has generated. Moreover, the lock is going to look really suspicious to about two thirds of this board


STW!

Platato

 

The other thread was locked because someone started attacking the moderators.

 

C3 General
C3 Tech
C3 High Tech

 

Has anyone seen Norm?