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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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I guess there is a little more to the CS install than I originally thought. Thank anyone who cares that I did not start the engine yet. I'd have hated to fry my alt too. Bad luck man if that's the outcome.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Taking mine back by the shop today for a bench test to see if I fried it trying all this crazy wiring I can no longer get that 18v peak I originally got trying to hook it up, no matter what wiring configuration I try
Ok...took it to Oreilly's and it bench tested "Good" (charging) WTF now? I'm gonna try the resistor in line just for laughs...
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
Good idea, check your car's wiring too.
Checked "good" surprisingly enough. Now I'm really gettin' confused. Fusable link somewhere maybe?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jclgodale3
Checked "good" surprisingly enough. Now I'm really gettin' confused. Fusable link somewhere maybe?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Did you ask the guys at the alt. shop what regulator you had in you alt and what was the correct way to hook it up.? Also, did you say you are no longer getting 18 volts? If so, what is your voltage now?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BerniesVette
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Did you ask the guys at the alt. shop what regulator you had in you alt and what was the correct way to hook it up.? Also, did you say you are no longer getting 18 volts? If so, what is your voltage now?
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Bernie...wasn't an alternator shop. It was the typical "bench test" at a local auto parts store. They hook it up, run it, then load it to see if the voltage increases to show a charge. I picked up the resistors and will try this method but I am truly dumbfounded at this point. I still get constant 12v on one side of the original plug (red wire) and 12v with the switch turned on on on the other side of the original plug (white wire) If I check voltage at the "Bat" terminal on the CS144 I get 12.19 volts whether it is off or running. Showing no charge. Same as with the 12v constant on the connector. Anymore ideas?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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So let's recap where you are with the connections. You now have the white wire connectd to the L terminal, the S terminal connected to the batt lug and your main charging wire connected to the batt lug, is this correct?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jclgodale3
Checked "good" surprisingly enough. Now I'm really gettin' confused. Fusable link somewhere maybe?
If the fuseable link were blown you wouldn't have voltage on the batt lug with the car off.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Something is really wrong if it went from 18V+ to no charge, and it bench tests fine. Either they tested it wrong or there is a fault in the wiring.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
So let's recap where you are with the connections. You now have the white wire connectd to the L terminal, the S terminal connected to the batt lug and your main charging wire connected to the batt lug, is this correct?
I never had the S wire off of the CS144 plug connected to the "Batt" terminal on the back of the alternator. I am trying that now. But you are saying to connect the Red wire from the original 2 wire plug to the Batt terminal on the back of the CS144 as well? So...that means I have 3 wires going to the back Batt terminal on the CS144? The Red S wire from the CS plug, the red wire from the original 2 wire plug that plugged into my original 63A alternator AND? the original red wire that was laready on the BATT lug on the original 63A alternator? And the "L" wire from the CS144 plug goes to the white wire on the original 2 wire alt plug? With no resistor?How about a picture?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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I thought all C3s had the "GEN" warning light in the center console. My SI alternator has two wires running into the plug. Those are the two that will be cut and attached to the CS plug.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
I thought all C3s had the "GEN" warning light in the center console. My SI alternator has two wires running into the plug. Those are the two that will be cut and attached to the CS plug.

There must be both out there since all places that sell the harness adapter ask you to specify if you have a warning light or not.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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this might help, at the bottom of the page probably pertains to your year

http://www.idavette.net/hib/reman.html
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jclgodale3
I never had the S wire off of the CS144 plug connected to the "Batt" terminal on the back of the alternator. I am trying that now. But you are saying to connect the Red wire from the original 2 wire plug to the Batt terminal on the back of the CS144 as well? So...that means I have 3 wires going to the back Batt terminal on the CS144? The Red S wire from the CS plug, the red wire from the original 2 wire plug that plugged into my original 63A alternator AND? the original red wire that was laready on the BATT lug on the original 63A alternator? And the "L" wire from the CS144 plug goes to the white wire on the original 2 wire alt plug? With no resistor?How about a picture?
No no, do not connect the original connectorized red wire there!

Lets try another way:

A wire connecting the S terminal to the Batt lug of the alt.

Your original white wire connected to the L lug of the alt.

Your original large gauge red wire (to the horn relay) to the batt lug of the alt.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Older Than Dirt
this might help, at the bottom of the page probably pertains to your year

http://www.idavette.net/hib/reman.html

Good site, very informative. Where can those wiring adapters be bought? They gave the part numbers, but no links to who still sells those. I had a good link, but they sent me a one-wire adapter, and I need a two-wire adapter.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
No no, do not connect the original connectorized red wire there!

Lets try another way:

A wire connecting the S terminal to the Batt lug of the alt.

Your original white wire connected to the L lug of the alt.

Your original large gauge red wire (to the horn relay) to the batt lug of the alt.
Judas preist Can you do something with this?

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jclgodale3
Judas preist Can you do something with this?

Yes, that red wire on the lower left hand side of the CS144 connected to the S terminal needs to connect to the Batt lug of same. That is, connect a wire bettween the two so they become connected to each other.

The white wire from the "original plug" connects to the L terminal of the CS144.

The "original red going to batt terminal on 63Amp alt" connects to the batt lug of the CS144.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Good site, very informative. Where can those wiring adapters be bought? They gave the part numbers, but no links to who still sells those. I had a good link, but they sent me a one-wire adapter, and I need a two-wire adapter.

Here's some adapters....
http://www.alternatorparts.com/CS-144_Special_offer.htm
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
Yes, that red wire on the lower left hand side of the CS144 connected to the S terminal needs to connect to the Batt lug of same. That is, connect a wire bettween the two so they become connected to each other.

The white wire from the original plug connects to the L terminal of the CS144.

The original red going to batt terminal on 63Amp alt connects to the batt lug of the CS144.

Okay, you say the red from the CS plug goes to the batt post, and the while from the CI plug goes to the brown wire. Where does the red wire from the original CI plug go? Does it go to that batt/red CS wire?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Okay, you say the red from the CS plug goes to the batt post, and the while from the CI plug goes to the brown wire. Where does the red wire from the original CI plug go? Does it go to that batt/red CS wire?
In Jclgodale3's case, nowhere. I believe that wire went to his amp meter which he's not using now.

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