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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Are the middle three main bearing caps all supposed to be identical?

When I disassembled the engine, I wrapped them with tape and labeled them with their order to make sure they went back on where they came from (I should of stamped them, oh well). When I got them back from the machine shop after they magnafluxed and measured everything, the tape was gone (of course). So, I looked at an old picture along with the caps themselves and noticed that the three middle ones were slightly different, as shown in the picture:

350 before crank removal

All have number 2482 cast in them, but one has 70N, another 73N and the last 69N. Also, the edges are all shaped a little different.

This is good for me because I can just match them up to the picture, but I was wondering if the prev. owner had them replaced or if each middle cap is supposed to be different.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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The 2482 designates a nodular iron cap, that's the best you can have on a production block. I take it yours is an early model block? They're all basically the same, just came out of different casting molds.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by L88Plus
The 2482 designates a nodular iron cap, that's the best you can have on a production block. I take it yours is an early model block? They're all basically the same, just came out of different casting molds.
Interesting...so the other numbers (70N, etc.) designate the casting mold, and it's normal for each or some of them to come from different molds on the same engine?

Yeah, it's a #'s matching 1970 L-46.

I'm glad I take so many pictures. Those and the different castings for each cap really saved me this time. Thanks for the info!
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Make sure you check that your crank still freely rortates after you torque down the caps. They are bored on the block, and swapping around even unintentionally, can create a compression. Once you torque them down, make sure you can freely spin the crank before adding piston rods to the mix. If the crank is compressed in the journal by one of the caps being mismatched from it's lower portion you may seize and spin a bearing.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Make sure you check that your crank still freely rortates after you torque down the caps. They are bored on the block, and swapping around even unintentionally, can create a compression. Once you torque them down, make sure you can freely spin the crank before adding piston rods to the mix. If the crank is compressed in the journal by one of the caps being mismatched from it's lower portion you may seize and spin a bearing.
I reccomend that you take it back to the machine shop and have it line-bored to eliminate ANY possibility of a problem.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoPaul
I reccomend that you take it back to the machine shop and have it line-bored to eliminate ANY possibility of a problem.
You cannot take a chance of getting them out of order. Most machine shops I have dealt with want them with bolts in them to keep them in order.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by markdtn
You cannot take a chance of getting them out of order. Most machine shops I have dealt with want them with bolts in them to keep them in order.
Yeah, I agree about the order being critical. But, how can I get them mixed up if I use that pic? It's pretty clear which one is which in that picture...just as good as if I stamped them IMO. Also, wouldn't the Plastigage or inability to have the crank spin freely (before pistons in) tell me if I have a problem or not?
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Originally Posted by rick1500
Yeah, I agree about the order being critical. But, how can I get them mixed up if I use that pic? It's pretty clear which one is which in that picture...just as good as if I stamped them IMO. Also, wouldn't the Plastigage or inability to have the crank spin freely (before pistons in) tell me if I have a problem or not?

If you have the picture as a good reference and you have no question in your mind which one is which, then you're in the clear.
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What the heck happened?I tried to use the multi quote.
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The caps all have their successive number cast right into them - it says "1", "2", "3" etc right on the caps... you shouldn't have any trouble putting them back in the right order...
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
What the heck happened?I tried to use the multi quote.

Eeh Haw. Eeh Haw.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Eeh Haw. Eeh Haw.
Oh Hush-I'll get the hang of it and then watch OUT !!!!
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Oh Hush-I'll get the hang of it and then watch OUT !!!!

Oh no, I'm...


J/K I like you and your multi-quotes.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Oh no, I'm...


J/K I like you and your multi-quotes.
Its a little early-what time does she get off work-you know they say 4 hours is the limit.
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Its a little early-what time does she get off work-you know they say 4 hours is the limit.

That's why I take two of them...
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
That's why I take two of them...
Hey are you allowed to show those?This is a family forum.
Where's GDaina
50s mine are twice that big !!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Hey are you allowed to show those?This is a family forum.
Where's GDaina

What...? They look like vitamins to me.
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