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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Anybody using a high torque mini-starter on their small block?.......Any recommendations ! Good or bad.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Yes, I had troubles with my old boat anchor, and finally switched it out for a cheapy AZ rebuilt....I have a staggered bolt mounting so the starter is a bit harder to find than an inline mounting bolt pattern....dunno even why the change....168 tooth wheel...
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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I'm using the Summit SUM-820323. It works and fits great.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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I'm a little confused about the price on mini-starters, they range from $60 to $300 or more. Are you paying for the name or difference in quality.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Stay away from cheap cheap cheap. You get what you pay for.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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i don't know about the starters but i've heard the mini altinators work great not to mention the cool factor
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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I just picked up a new one an hour ago. It was recommended that I went with the TCI They have never had a problem/complaint with them. It was $259 CDN
My last mini starter was a no name and it lasted a few years but was feeling tired so I bought a new one while I was at it.
I did have to rotate it to clear the block. They are adjustable as to solenoid location but only the center location fit my Merlin block.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
I just picked up a new one an hour ago. It was recommended that I went with the TCI They have never had a problem/complaint with them. It was $259 CDN
My last mini starter was a no name and it lasted a few years but was feeling tired so I bought a new one while I was at it.
I did have to rotate it to clear the block. They are adjustable as to solenoid location but only the center location fit my Merlin block.

Norval...you have a high compression motor right? Could that have had anything to do with the short life of your last mini starter?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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I bought one off E-bay and have been using it for four years now with no problems.

I think it was around $130 but I don't remember the sellers name.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Norval...you have a high compression motor right? Could that have had anything to do with the short life of your last mini starter?
I have a high torque mini on the 69 427 high compression vert. Probably running just shy of 12:1. NO problems and its been 3 years. It does have FI on it so it starts with very little cranking.

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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Norval...you have a high compression motor right? Could that have had anything to do with the short life of your last mini starter?
Norval needs one off a diesel BUS.......
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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I had a GM Performance Parts high-torque mini #12361146 on my 350 HO crate for 5 years. It works great and I haven't had to touch it since I installed it.

GMPP's description:
This gear reduction starter is designed for 1958-1996 V-8 and all 90? V-6 engines. It has a compact design that provides increased clearance, weighs only 10. 5 pounds and has a gear reduction of 3. 75:1. It is equipped with a dual bolt pattern for 12. 75" (153-tooth) and 14" (168-tooth) flywheels, and the housing can be rotated to clear exhaust systems. Kit includes starter, mounting bolts, shims, gaskets, and electrical connectors.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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I am looking for one of these as well. I just got a Hitachi for my 75 w/ manual transmission, but it doesnt fit. idk why but supposedly it has to do something with the fact that its a manual. the shop said something about its hard to find one for a manual despite the fact that it says it works for a manual on the box.....
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TERRY CLARK
I'm a little confused about the price on mini-starters, they range from $60 to $300 or more. Are you paying for the name or difference in quality.
one difference is probably the HP of the starter motor itself....
...redvetracr
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Does anyone know of any brands to watch out for?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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I was having all kinds of starting problems with my small block until I installed a powermaster 180. It seems to have cured the problems.
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GMPP #9000852 fits 168 tooth flywheel both small & big blocks. $229 at Scoggin Dickey- very good starter.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 75 Hot One
GMPP #9000852 fits 168 tooth flywheel both small & big blocks. $229 at Scoggin Dickey- very good starter.

Wow that's a lot of coin. I'd be comfortable paying half that considering how little I get to drive the car, and how it'll be fuel injected and will crank a lot less.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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I ordered one from Amazon for $83 after $20 discount but it has been back-ordered for a while.

Quality-Built 6449MSN Supreme Domestic Starter - New

http://www.quality-built.com

It is a remake of the starters gm used in trucks from 1996 to 2002. From comparing pictures, it looks like the gmpp bb502 starter that others are using.

It is the last component (I hope) that I need to install the TKO-600 auto to manual kit from Keisler.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by second76
I ordered one from Amazon for $83 after $20 discount but it has been back-ordered for a while.

That's sure a better price.
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