M-22 or ???: Trans.selection help
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Drifting
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Jim uses the softlok and that might fit the bill. Probably your cheapest option.
The guy at titanspeed is really cool if you want to call them, its like calling dewitts, your probably going to talk to the owner if you call. I really enjoyed my shopping experience when I bought my oil pump.
They are just really expensive.
The guy at titanspeed is really cool if you want to call them, its like calling dewitts, your probably going to talk to the owner if you call. I really enjoyed my shopping experience when I bought my oil pump.
They are just really expensive.
Originally Posted by howarsc
good choice.
Steve
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Prior to manual I had that 850 hp art carr 700r4. It was very reliable with my lower hp 427 motown. Auto trannies are power suckers because of the pumps and they have traction problems
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Steve, I got the answer on the M-22:
It is a myth that they were good high HP trannys. The problem is the front of the case. The front input shaft comes into the case. Directly below it is the gear cluster shaft. The case is prone to cracking between the two shafts. the Texas Racing trannys use the same size case for the T101A, but they machine out a larger hole for the lower shaft ball bearings and increased the thickness of the case. which makes it much stronger.
My boss said that they used to break the old M-22's once small blocks started exceeding 500 hp
It is a myth that they were good high HP trannys. The problem is the front of the case. The front input shaft comes into the case. Directly below it is the gear cluster shaft. The case is prone to cracking between the two shafts. the Texas Racing trannys use the same size case for the T101A, but they machine out a larger hole for the lower shaft ball bearings and increased the thickness of the case. which makes it much stronger.
My boss said that they used to break the old M-22's once small blocks started exceeding 500 hp
I have received everything and will be installing the trans this weekend. With any luck, by Sunday I will be able to spend some time breaking it in on the DynoJet before I make a few runs!
Steve
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George, I appreciate the follow up. I am hoping that the Super Case on the Autogear M-22 I purchased will be able to withstand any of my abuse.
I have received everything and will be installing the trans this weekend. With any luck, by Sunday I will be able to spend some time breaking it in on the DynoJet before I make a few runs!
Steve
I have received everything and will be installing the trans this weekend. With any luck, by Sunday I will be able to spend some time breaking it in on the DynoJet before I make a few runs!
Steve
About the only data I could find on the autogear m-22 is that it has a stronger case like the Texas racing. I found that it has a 600 foot pound rating. Is that the numbers you were told? That would be the same as a TKO 600
by chance do you have it rapped up in a tranny flak jacket?
I have a blow proof bell housing and a drive line hoop.
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Good question/point. With the kind of horsepower you have IMHO it would be wise to run with these safety devices, whether any particular strip's "tech" inspection requires them or not.
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I do have a scattershield and a driveshaft safety loop but do not have any kind of tranny protection.
As far as the strength of the Autogear M-22, George at Autogear was able to convince me that his M-22 is the strongest synchro-type trans currently available. I'm sure that are many people that would argue this point but I am willing to give it a try.
Hey, what's the worst thing that could happen?
Steve
As far as the strength of the Autogear M-22, George at Autogear was able to convince me that his M-22 is the strongest synchro-type trans currently available. I'm sure that are many people that would argue this point but I am willing to give it a try.
Hey, what's the worst thing that could happen?
Steve
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One other thing. Torque ratings are actually what the trans is capable of handling if subjected to that amount of torque continuously for 24 hrs. Actual torque that the trans can handle would be much more than the rating. As I said before My buddy Dave Testin ran one in a street legal 57 Chevy with a 540 W/3 stages of nitrous. 1100 HP. High RPM laonchs W/ slicks and powershifting every week at the Dragstip for 3 years with no issues. Shock when shifting is what will kill any manual and powershifting 1100 HP in a heavy car with slicks on a prepped track is a pretty good test.
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One other thing. Torque ratings are actually what the trans is capable of handling if subjected to that amount of torque continuously for 24 hrs. Actual torque that the trans can handle would be much more than the rating. As I said before My buddy Dave Testin ran one in a street legal 57 Chevy with a 540 W/3 stages of nitrous. 1100 HP. High RPM laonchs W/ slicks and powershifting every week at the Dragstip for 3 years with no issues. Shock when shifting is what will kill any manual and powershifting 1100 HP in a heavy car with slicks on a prepped track is a pretty good test.
Steve
