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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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This weekend I noticed my highway water temp is a little higher then I like at around 200-205* when on a sustained cruise (50+miles continuously)..... Before throwing a bunch of money at it, I am thinking of removing the front license plate to see if it helps....locals here says it does but who knows.......everything is new in my car including all seals, air damn, fan clutch etc so.....I either need more flow through the radiator or another radiator with more capacity at high speed.

Anyone back to back tested front plate removal?
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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YES, old hat trick.....I moved from Maryland some 13 years ago, they really stupid with that front tag so I never had any reason to remove the tag carrier....so put on a vette filler/tag piece from a C4 I used to have...

and got overheating on freeways here in Florida...

pulled out all that garbage to fine a center grill hidden behind there, and cured the freeway summer hot problems...always ran fine after that, even with the various fan combos....

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Hi a,
I agree that the license plate can affect cooling.
In fact, in 66-67, the engineers moved the front plate location on certain cars with certain options from the center to the side to increase air flow to the radiator.
So I'd think it would help for you too.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Try driving without a front license plate here in Norway. Big, big fine
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSaint
Try driving without a front license plate here in Norway. Big, big fine
What if you "lose" it?
I used to "lose" my front plate in NH every June and it took them 90 days to make me a new one - and they give you a paper that explains for you. Best $10 I ever spent.

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSaint
Try driving without a front license plate here in Norway. Big, big fine

Yeah here in Texas front plates are required also normally....BUT I have mine registered as an antique so it only needs the rear plate, no annual inspections etc....just pay the piper every 5 yrs for antique plates/registration.

Thanks for the replys.... I will definetly give it a try this weekend...

Anyone tried this with success?

I know it's gonna look like crap without my USA 1 plate on the front...
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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I think my car looks a lot better without it
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Absolutely works. I have A/C and it made a big difference at road speeds, it's a straight shot to the radiator. I even experimented with removeing the "flaps" over the lights that hide them from view when they're down. That didn't help.

Best thing I did was a DeWitt radiator and a 3.5 inch chin spoiler. That combo works, A/C on, even here in 100 plus degree NorCal summers.

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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I dropped my water temp 20 degrees by modifying my '79 front bumper license plate area. I used to run 195 to 200 degrees and higher on a really hot day. Now I rarely go over 170 and never over 180. I'm thinking of replacing my 160 degree thermostat with a 180.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...post1570560887

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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
What if you "lose" it?
I used to "lose" my front plate in NH every June and it took them 90 days to make me a new one - and they give you a paper that explains for you. Best $10 I ever spent.

-W
That would not help much. You would get fined anyway. We had smaller front license plates(you had to apply to get it)a few years agoo but not anymore. Everything is up to EU standard even that we are not a member of the EU.The reason i think that we have the same plates in the front is because of the speed cameras(easy to see the driver and plate)That brings money to the state.
But the prisons here is like a hotel for the inmates.Not that i have tryed it but i think for foreigner the fear of getting to prison here in Norway are none present.There are absolutely no comparison to what i have seen on the tv of prisons in the US.

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I agree, lose the front license plate. The chrome bumper cars have a nice grill that needs to be seen.
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Ok, I pulled my front license plate and I was suprised at how much frontal area it opened up. The other two grills are actually blocked about 90% when the headlights are closed. Right behind the hole where the plate sits the area really opens up and gives a straight shot to the radiator. I will road test this weekend and see if it helps any....

Here is some crappy iPhone pics...




Fingers crossed...
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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I would consider 200*F a normal operating temperature....
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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I didn't have success with the front license plate removal. Turned out I had some air in the cooling system.

Now, after a flush and refill, I top off the cooling system with the car on a slight incline and the engine running. No problem keeping the big-block cool now.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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it works, don't worry...
tried on mine. then i put again the licence plate in place because i wanted to avoid the additional drag and not legal here to remove the licence plate.as said it works but not necessary with my dewitts aluminum and mech fan. when i need additional cooling i open the headlights (as effective as removing the licence plate , even with the "flaps"). But you have AC, right?
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Originally Posted by elle88
it works, don't worry...
tried on mine. then i put again the licence plate in place because i wanted to avoid the additional drag and not legal here to remove the licence plate.as said it works but not necessary with my dewitts aluminum and mech fan. when i need additional cooling i open the headlights (as effective as removing the licence plate , even with the "flaps"). But you have AC, right?
yes I have AC on it...ts Vintage Air with the small Sanden compressor so it really doesn't increase the heat built in the engine that much. I really don't notice a difference in water temp with the AC on or off....at least not yet....but it hasn't gotten over 80* here yet...

During the winter on a 50-60* day, this thing would never get over 170-175* no matter what I did with it......it just now started getting into the 180-190*s since the ambient temps got into the upper 70s. I am afraid if that pattern continues, by the time the ambient temps are 95*+ my water temps will be well over 200*....not good for a 650hp engine....
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Originally Posted by mayberg
I didn't have success with the front license plate removal. Turned out I had some air in the cooling system.

Now, after a flush and refill, I top off the cooling system with the car on a slight incline and the engine running. No problem keeping the big-block cool now.
I had a Fiero once that if you didn't get all of the air out of the coolant system, it would overheat. I just recently put this thermostat housing in the Vette. It is now the highest point and where I top it off. Along with the front bumper mod I also put in an electric water pump. Everything is working great.
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I did the front plate trick, water wetter, timing, and everything else I could think of...eventually...I just did the aluminum radiator/ electric fans and all my worries were gone. I think my rad was just plugged.
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
yes I have AC on it...ts Vintage Air with the small Sanden compressor so it really doesn't increase the heat built in the engine that much. I really don't notice a difference in water temp with the AC on or off....at least not yet....but it hasn't gotten over 80* here yet...

During the winter on a 50-60* day, this thing would never get over 170-175* no matter what I did with it......it just now started getting into the 180-190*s since the ambient temps got into the upper 70s. I am afraid if that pattern continues, by the time the ambient temps are 95*+ my water temps will be well over 200*....not good for a 650hp engine....
do you have an aluminum radiator? I hope yes , from pics you posted I see a black radiator. if not Alu , go for it and 180F Tstat and you'll solve the problem.my temp gage is 180F steady ( or about so)
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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I have lived in Arkansas, Kentucky, and Tennessee and have never heard of mandatory front license plates, so I guess I learned something.
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