Fuel Injection
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Re: Fuel Injection (xfactor974)
Yeah I know about the software thing. That's a drawback. I'm not sure I like the Holley Commander system though. Holley never posts and specs on their units like all the other companies do. They just say "This is a great system you should buy it" Their ads are very misleading. What do you think the new Accel system will go for $ wise?
The new Accel Gen VII system is in direct competition with the F.A.S.T. stuff (www.fuelairspark.com) in both features and price. Plan on $3300+ (depending on options and intake choice) for a full system. If your budget is in the $2k range, the Holley is the best option by a mile! Have you looked at their new StealthRam? As a bonus, IMO, it's much nicer looking than the SuperRam.
Try to find online support for a DFI system. There isn't any... Engineers from FAST and Holley are online all the time at http://www.chevytalk.com
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Re: Fuel Injection (xfactor974)
Looks like you were right Flareside. The web sites are saying another $895 for the newest chip. That's just entirely too expensive for me. Why is Accel charging $1000+ overtop of what the other companies are charging?
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From: hamilton square NJ
Re: Fuel Injection (Flareside)
i agree totally with you Flareside, and I like the options that Accel is putting forth. Also, I looked at the StealthRam from Holley, and that has a cool look to it.
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Re: Fuel Injection (ZD75blue)
It's not the gas mileage i'm concerned about. It's the HP easy starting I'm looking for and ultimate tuneability. Flareside, I talked to Accel this morning and I got the demo CalMap software. Looks easy to tune and stuff. The ram is sequential multi point wheras I though it was TPI(silly me). And the ram comes with the Gen VII chip in it for $3300. Also, they said that I would need a electronic distributer if I want it to control the ignition and timing as well. I think I'll opt for that also. Add $299.
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Re: Fuel Injection (xfactor974)
I talked to Paul Rock at work yesterday and he says Accel only makes crap. He told me to take a closer look at the Holley stuff becuase it's better than you think. He never gives me a biased opinion so I'm going to have to restragize. Anyway, the Holley StealthRam is 2730.00 and looks a lot nicer. So, I'm getting specs on that from Holley today.
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Re: Fuel Injection (Flareside)
Fuel pump is no good in the kit? I was looking at the Aeromotive one with the Aeromotive fuel filter and AN lines of course.
This looks nasty. :D :cool:
[Modified by xfactor974, 1:18 PM 4/17/2002]
This looks nasty. :D :cool:
[Modified by xfactor974, 1:18 PM 4/17/2002]
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From: Roxbury NJ
Re: Fuel Injection (xfactor974)
Fuel pump is no good in the kit? [/img]
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From: Plano TX
Re: Fuel Injection (Flareside)
The Holley kit comes with one of two pumps. Kits with 30lbs or smaller injectors have a Holley black pump. 36 lbs/hr injectors or larger come with a Walbro pump. I initially had the black pump. It recently started making noise and I had it replaced with the larger Wal-bro pump under warranty. I think Holley may be switching over to using only the walbros.
I think the Walbro is a quality unit. Sure it's not as large as the aeromotive, but is that a bad thing? The capacity is impressive at 255 liters/hr. Enough to feed stout big-blocks. It is also very quiet. I can not hear it with the engine running (I have quiet exhaust).
Keep in mind that Walbro is a large OEM supplier. There's something to be said for stuff that lasts 20 years or more, which is what the big 3 demand from OEM suppliers.
I think the Walbro is a quality unit. Sure it's not as large as the aeromotive, but is that a bad thing? The capacity is impressive at 255 liters/hr. Enough to feed stout big-blocks. It is also very quiet. I can not hear it with the engine running (I have quiet exhaust).
Keep in mind that Walbro is a large OEM supplier. There's something to be said for stuff that lasts 20 years or more, which is what the big 3 demand from OEM suppliers.
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Re: Fuel Injection (Budman78)
Budman,
Don't you have one of Street and Performance's setups? I haven't looked into it much yet but was under the impression that S & P's version is a custom GM TPI setup. What kind of controller do you have and how does it work? Can you reprogram it or do you have to have a new chip burned? And can your system control the 700R4?
Don't you have one of Street and Performance's setups? I haven't looked into it much yet but was under the impression that S & P's version is a custom GM TPI setup. What kind of controller do you have and how does it work? Can you reprogram it or do you have to have a new chip burned? And can your system control the 700R4?
