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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Going through the engine harness today I pulled it all apart and removed some of the wiring I will not be using with the LS swap and the Vintage AC unit. I now have rerouted the large red (power) and the large purple (start) wire and they are way to long. If I shorten them I will remove some of the fuseable link. Is it possible to put an in line fuse in there instead of the fuseable link? This would be way easier to replace also if it ever blew the fuse/link. Anyone ever done this. I am ordering my LS harness this week and will mate the two once it arrives.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Gordon, I'm far from a skilled auto electric guy but you may find this link interesting.

I've chosen to always keep a fuseable link installed; just one guy's take.

http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/fusible-link.shtml
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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I think you would be better off with putting link wire back in. If you put a in line fuse in you are creating 4 failure points rather than the 2.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Just thought I'd ask. If any electrical engineers out there I'd sure like to know for a fact. I have no problem going with a fuseable link, it would probably wire in better and stay in a loom better. Any problem with soldering the link in or will this harm the link.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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You should install the fusible link. The links are designed for specific application. Yes, they are just smaller wire (usually one or two wire sizes smaller than the 'parent' wire; but, they are terminated by non-flammable junctions (bakelite pieces) and covered with non-flammable insulation. They are intended to melt when an over-current condition appears. This is a very unusual condition, usually brought on by a dead-short, very high current draw due to 'owner cockpit error' or a failure of a major electical component. Otherwise they should NEVER blow. Most of the original C3 fusible links are likely still in service.

A regular fuse will blow much more easily than a fusible link...so will a circuit breaker. So, if you substitute with one of those, carry several spares--you'll need them.

I would suggest that you just insert replacement fusible links in the same general location as the originals. Use the original electrical diagram to determine what sizes were used and just do likewise. That's my .02. (P.S. I'm not an electrical engineer...but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ) [but I do have a Bachelor's degree in Engineering, if that helps]
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Stay with the fusible link, for a lot of reasons.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Just thought I'd ask. If any electrical engineers out there I'd sure like to know for a fact. I have no problem going with a fuseable link, it would probably wire in better and stay in a loom better. Any problem with soldering the link in or will this harm the link.
If you are using the links leave them out of the harness at the end like oem at the starter.
To solder use good butt or parallel connectors, solder, wipe with silicone then heatshrink 1 or 2 coats just over the connector. Will last forever, save for a short.
Modern cars use slow blow which serve the same purpose as links, but are more suitable near the alt protecting high draw items. The proper mounts also make nice junctions mounted on an inner fender. Napa or a boat supply for ANL type.
Here is a guide on how to size them.


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Here is welding cable and their ends (better than automotive), with the ends crimped and soldered. Best bang for the buck. You can smear with silicone when done and add heatshrink too.



You can get the anl fuses and mounts at NAPA or any boat supply.
It's best to fuse all high amp power wires. Battery cables are about the only ones that never are.

Here is a crude wire sizing calculator. Check the difference between 0 and 1 ga with the cable at 8foot.
http://www.supercircuits.com/resourc...ls/voltageDrop

Here is a chart for sizing anl fuses.

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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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I saw the other day at Autozone they had two different fuseable link wires in packages so they are available pretty easy.
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Ok I will keep the links. I should probably just shorten the wire then and solder with a connector and leave the link in the same position. Some of my suppliers have the butt end connectors now with the solderright in them. You use the butt connector and heat the butt connector and the solder melts inside the connector and you have a good joint. They are quite expensive but what isn't anymore.
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It's a good choice to stay with fusible links.

As a general rule, fusible links should be two gauge sizes smaller than the wire they are protecting. So, if you are protecting 12 gauge wire, the fusible link should be 16 gauge.

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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Ok I will keep the links. I should probably just shorten the wire then and solder with a connector and leave the link in the same position. Some of my suppliers have the butt end connectors now with the solderright in them. You use the butt connector and heat the butt connector and the solder melts inside the connector and you have a good joint. They are quite expensive but what isn't anymore.
We use those solder sleeves all the time. Approved aircraft repair stuff, which is why they're expensive. The ones we use, you strip both wires, slide them in the splice so they overlap, heat with a heat gun, the solder melts and the sleeve shrinks down. Nice tight waterproof seal. The other type we use look like a common butt splice, but the sleeve and the cover are seperate. Slide the sleeve on, crimp the metal connector, put the sleeve over the splice and heat.
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You could also replace them with circuit breakers. GM now puts master fuses on alternator charging wires. I just went through hell finding the one on a 98 S10. Sucker was below the battery tray corroded with acid. We found our charging system problem after hours of troubleshooting.
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