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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Anybody know what's up here?

Shifting from Park to Drive or Reverse, I experience a hard "Bump" I'm told that it's "The nature of the beast" by a Corvette Mechanic that I trust. I'm bringing the car in soon to check this out, but the U Joints are fine, the Snubber is as well....

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What's the idle speed?
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What's the idle speed?
Idle speed was at 900 RPM..we dropped it down to around 6-700...Just a tiny bit better, but still there
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Old Apr 23, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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The rear end will squat a bit when you shift to drive, but it shouldn't make any noise
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Originally Posted by my 76 ray
The rear end will squat a bit when you shift to drive, but it shouldn't make any noise

This is a definite "Bump!" Like the RPM's are high when shifting into gear. I guess I'll see when I bring her in.

I'm also told that GM had a memo that went to all dealers, told them to NOT try to fix...That the car will experience some "Lash" in the drivetrain components over time...U Joints, Half Shafts...etc

Any help would be appreciated...

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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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I'm also told that GM had a memo that went to all dealers, told them to NOT try to fix...That the car will experience some "Lash" in the drivetrain components over time...U Joints, Half Shafts...etc
Lash? That's called worn out parts, and the memo to not fix it I'm sure is BS. Who told you that?
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Lash? That's called worn out parts, and the memo to not fix it I'm sure is BS. Who told you that?
It was posted on another forum...Not the actual "Memo" I'm glad you think it's BS..I got the same feeling. If I can remember which one it was on, I'll post it. The more I read about Snubber Cushions, the more I think this is the culprit.
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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The more I read about Snubber Cushions, the more I think this is the culprit.
That would be the first thing I'd check.
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thm350s have an anticlunk spring. designed to cushion the shift into gear from park... this does not cushion the shift from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd etc. as that is the job of the accumulator.
thm400s don't have this spring
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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probley the internal lip seals leaking due to age they get brittle and let transmission fluid by pass making a slight delay then the increased psi to aplly the clutches makes them apply rouughly also worn friction plates in the tranny will make a clunk when its engauged into gear
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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 10:44 PM
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the idle is 'too high and there is no stall in the converter....he probably has to hold the brakes firm at a red light or in anything except neutral and shut it off in gear
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the idle is 'too high and there is no stall in the converter....he probably has to hold the brakes firm at a red light or in anything except neutral and shut it off in gear
Actually, that's not the problem. It's fine while driving. No problem there. Just shifting from P to D or R. Sits nicely at a light, shifts through the gears with no problem at speed....and punching it is fine as well...Shifts through all gears with no problem.

It's a 427/390
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Originally Posted by 75vetteman
thm350s have an anticlunk spring. designed to cushion the shift into gear from park... this does not cushion the shift from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd etc. as that is the job of the accumulator.
thm400s don't have this spring

The engine is a 427/390. As I mentioned in another post, everything else in the tranny seems to work fine. Sits at a light with no problem, accelerates through the gears with no "Bump" at all. Nice and smooth. Just going from P to D or R

We shall see.

Thanks for all the info
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Is the snubber a stock rubber one or a hard polly one ?

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Originally Posted by DESI6327
The engine is a 427/390. As I mentioned in another post, everything else in the tranny seems to work fine. Sits at a light with no problem, accelerates through the gears with no "Bump" at all. Nice and smooth. Just going from P to D or R

We shall see.

Thanks for all the info
My 427/390 gives me a little bump shifting especially into reverse but I think it's just the nature of the beast. If your snubber is OK and you keep your idle down you still get a little bit of a bump but not a clunk. Your idle should be around 650 RPM's in gear and around 800 RPM's in neutral and park.
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Originally Posted by 63split63
Is the snubber a stock rubber one or a hard polly one ?

Bill
Good question....don't know. Bought the car last week, and it's on it's way here now via transport. Like I mentioned, my mechanic thinks it's probably the Snubber. It's going in as soon as it gets here. Everything else about the car is great....
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Originally Posted by capevettes
My 427/390 gives me a little bump shifting especially into reverse but I think it's just the nature of the beast. If your snubber is OK and you keep your idle down you still get a little bit of a bump but not a clunk. Your idle should be around 650 RPM's in gear and around 800 RPM's in neutral and park.
Yeah..this car was idling at 900...we dropped it down to around 6-650..Made a little difference, but not a lot. I'm still guessing it's the Snubber. The seller showed me all receipts for work done...LOTS!!! One thing he never addressed WAS the snubber...Said he "Eyballed" it, and it looked OK...Still think that's the culprit
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...Still think that's the culprit
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Its not the transmission, as it should not make a substantial RPM change going between park and reverse or the others....the converter regulates that...a hydraulic cam {stock} should be in the 500 RPM range in and out of gear at idle.......If a hot or hotter cam is in the engine then a stall converter will cure the noise....if the above replys happen to be incorrect
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Its not the transmission, as it should not make a substantial RPM change going between park and reverse or the others....the converter regulates that...a hydraulic cam {stock} should be in the 500 RPM range in and out of gear at idle.......If a hot or hotter cam is in the engine then a stall converter will cure the noise....if the above replys happen to be incorrect
Thanks, Iron...

According to the receipts for the engine rebuild, a non stock cam was replaced by a stock one. The engine doesn't act like it has anything radical in it, however, when we dropped the idle down, the engine sure labored.

SNUBBER.....that's what I'm thinkin'!
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