C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Dyno test predictions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 10:11 AM
  #21  
63mako's Avatar
63mako
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,674
Likes: 122
From: Millington Illinois
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

212 hp
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 10:35 AM
  #22  
MAXCO's Avatar
MAXCO
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 198
Likes: 2
From: St. Catharines Ontario
Default

218 hp
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 12:11 PM
  #23  
TimberwolfFXDL's Avatar
TimberwolfFXDL
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Battle Creek MI
Default

Originally Posted by jb78L-82

The only changes to my 66,000 mile stock L-82 4 speed are:

Holley 4175 650 CFM Qjet replacement-no changes to jetting-softest vacuum secondary spring
Comp cams roller tipped 1.5 rockers-no difference from stock
2.5 dual exhaust and McJack's Shorty headers-Monza turbo mufflers
No pollution control
stock dual intake air cleaner assembly with K&N filter
175 degree operating temperature versus stock 220 temp

I figure about 45-50 RWHP increase over totally stock 1978 L-82!
those rockers could be making a pretty big difference actually. Stock rocker ratios can vary several tenths in either direction. I've read that upward of 20-30hp can be found by going to a "true" 1.5 ratio rocker (or in comp's case, 1.52)
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 12:15 PM
  #24  
redwhitekat's Avatar
redwhitekat
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Default

I will get some results this week or early next week
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 01:02 PM
  #25  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default yeah you might read that from a vendor..............>

Originally Posted by TimberwolfFXDL
those rockers could be making a pretty big difference actually. Stock rocker ratios can vary several tenths in either direction. I've read that upward of 20-30hp can be found by going to a "true" 1.5 ratio rocker (or in comp's case, 1.52)
however real world results are different. I've changed from the stock to the roller tip to the full rollers I've NEVER seen more than a 10-15hp difference there ON the dyno, and more of that gain is in the upper rpm range, and I'd be careful on what roller rockers I would use have seen many "cheap" rollers come apart and the little needle bearings in them causing catostrophic engine damage. And at $300.00 plus dollars for a GOOD set that at much hp, however I am forced to live on a low income so $$$ are an issue for me. down
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 01:50 PM
  #26  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default And don't forget.............>

Originally Posted by lance m p
however real world results are different. I've changed from the stock to the roller tip to the full rollers I've NEVER seen more than a 10-15hp difference there ON the dyno, and more of that gain is in the upper rpm range, and I'd be careful on what roller rockers I would use have seen many "cheap" rollers come apart and the little needle bearings in them causing catostrophic engine damage. And at $300.00 plus dollars for a GOOD set that at much hp, however I am forced to live on a low income so $$$ are an issue for me. down
some of those true roller rockers [depending on the head] will require machine work and/or screw in studs and guide plates-off comes the heads down to the machine shop $100.00-$200.00 at least, AND then we got to buy all new gaskets for the top end, after swap you might be in your pockets for OVER $600.00 just to use the rollers,[don't forget labor] w/that amount spent you would be WAY better off putting a lil bigger cam in it-for about the same $$$ and gain a true 25-30hp. through out the used rpm range of your basically stock engine Again more gain in that in/above the 3000-3500rpm's w/the rollers and how many of us drive around at that rpm-all day? I'm not trying to deter anyone just think it thru 1st. Some of us have more $$$$$ then cents. however my .02 cents are just that. to each there own. Along time ago I fell into the hear this read that thing and more often than not got poor results, until I really got into seeing it and doing it w/my own hands
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 01:55 PM
  #27  
TimberwolfFXDL's Avatar
TimberwolfFXDL
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Battle Creek MI
Default

I think you read WAY more into my post than what I was actually trying to convey. All I meant was that the ratios of OEM stamped rockers are unreliably reported at best, and there are aftermarket companies who specialize in controlling that ration down to the hundredth (or so they say). a 1.52 is certainly going to perform better than an OEM 1.5 that's really 1.3 due to manufacturing conditions. And that's true whether it's stamper, roller tip, or full-zoot roller "everything"

Point being, saying installing 1.52 roller tip rockers is the same as stock is misleading.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 02:23 PM
  #28  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default Your right........>

Originally Posted by TimberwolfFXDL
I think you read WAY more into my post than what I was actually trying to convey. All I meant was that the ratios of OEM stamped rockers are unreliably reported at best, and there are aftermarket companies who specialize in controlling that ration down to the hundredth (or so they say). a 1.52 is certainly going to perform better than an OEM 1.5 that's really 1.3 due to manufacturing conditions. And that's true whether it's stamper, roller tip, or full-zoot roller "everything"

Point being, saying installing 1.52 roller tip rockers is the same as stock is misleading.
I wasn't trying to be smart, just some seen 1st hand info-not a advertisting trying to get your $$$, However even a good set of say Comp True-Rollers-Tip rockers are not going to give you much I suppose instead of a 5hp gain I should have said 5-10hp on the roller tips. And being a good set there ratio is probably true to there #'s in ratio, which could help IF the stockers were way off? by getting the valves to open a lil longer/farther, along w/ a lil less friction there, we cool
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 02:36 PM
  #29  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default SuperBuickguy is right............>

Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy
I just hope you don't come home on a rollback. Dynos can eat well-used cars.
we normally don't do more than 3 pulls the dyno puts a hell of load on the entire drivetrain, yep been there done that-getting pull happy, you might be pushing it off the chassis dyno and looking at a rod through the block,waiting for a rollback.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 02:58 PM
  #30  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default 0 yes lol.........>

Originally Posted by 7t9l82
I should do more of that-eat popcorn and be very, very quite! lol yep thats the way ta do it! sometimes its like wow! really? and then I qet pulled in! shut-up Lance an put a bag in the micro!
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 03:36 PM
  #31  
hugie82's Avatar
hugie82
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 49
From: Bridgewater nj
Default

Originally Posted by lance m p
I should do more of that-eat popcorn and be very, very quite! lol yep thats the way ta do it! sometimes its like wow! really? and then I qet pulled in! shut-up Lance an put a bag in the micro!
Maybe switch to decaf too...
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 04:09 PM
  #32  
BKbroiler's Avatar
BKbroiler
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,086
Likes: 786
From: Lebanon Township New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by lance m p
we normally don't do more than 3 pulls the dyno puts a hell of load on the entire drivetrain, yep been there done that-getting pull happy, you might be pushing it off the chassis dyno and looking at a rod through the block,waiting for a rollback.
How long does a dyno pull last? I can't believe it's longer than a run down a 1/4 mile track. If you can't make more than 3 runs or pulls without scattering parts, should you be there at all?
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 10:44 PM
  #33  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default yep de-cap needed...........>

Originally Posted by hugie82
Maybe switch to decaf too...
hell MS is killing me so I might as well have a lil fun till then
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 10:57 PM
  #34  
lance m p's Avatar
lance m p
Racer
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Default we will pull em till you say stop........>

Originally Posted by BKbroiler
How long does a dyno pull last? I can't believe it's longer than a run down a 1/4 mile track. If you can't make more than 3 runs or pulls without scattering parts, should you be there at all?
we try and get every thing statically close 1st so we don't have too much diddling around w/it on the dyno---$$$. I still go down to my buddies shop and help out now and then, my health is failing fast, so now more of a hobby. and not too many failures on it just ....sometimes? the human factor, parts suspect, etc. the most pulls made I've been were around 11, guy wasn't satisfied? trying to get 500hp out this SBC because SOMEONE or he read SOMEWHERE told him he was supposed to get that? unacheivable amount w/ his engine.there is a limit w/everything.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2013 | 03:04 PM
  #35  
redwhitekat's Avatar
redwhitekat
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Default

Ok results are in car with the existing carb pulled 206 hp
With the new lars adjusted carb pulled 218 and 221 hp on the 3rd try not bad torque was at 246
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2013 | 06:02 PM
  #36  
63mako's Avatar
63mako
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 10,674
Likes: 122
From: Millington Illinois
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

There was a 205 guess. I was 212 There was a 218. Those look closest to me.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2013 | 07:28 PM
  #37  
johnt365's Avatar
johnt365
Drifting
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,714
Likes: 42
From: Austin Texas
Default

Very interesting results! Would you be willing to post the A/F ratio data for each run? I would like to see that.

Thanks
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Dyno test predictions

Old Mar 28, 2013 | 07:32 PM
  #38  
redwhitekat's Avatar
redwhitekat
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Default

I will when I get my results sheet
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2013 | 11:33 PM
  #39  
redwhitekat's Avatar
redwhitekat
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Default

You can see the video on the Canadian section c3 action at Dasilva Motorsports you can ask questions there mine is the red corvette
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2013 | 12:30 AM
  #40  
bluedawg's Avatar
bluedawg
Safety Car
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,736
Likes: 56
From: anchorage ak
Default

Originally Posted by bluedawg
205 rwhp...
Having never owned a l82, that was a lucky guess. Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while. Congradulations on your numbers.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:16 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE