Dyno Tested Crate Engines - Question
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Dyno Tested Crate Engines - Question
When a retailer sells a "Dyno-Tested" crate engine, should I safely assume that means the engine has already been broken-in?
Specifically the flat tappet cam.....
Looking at this...
http://www.jegs.com/i/Blueprint+Engi...FaZ7Qgodfi4AYA
Specifically the flat tappet cam.....
Looking at this...
http://www.jegs.com/i/Blueprint+Engi...FaZ7Qgodfi4AYA
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You better check with each builder individually: I have seen "dyno tested engines" which means that the builder dyno tested the combination you're buying to verify that the engine will produce that power. Many builders do this initial dyno run to substantiate the advertised power level, and then either just do a test-run (no-load conditions) of the actual engines, or no run at all. Buyer beware...
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OK...I called them and they said EVERY engine is dyno tested, but I still need to break in the cam....
I asked why and they said because it's been sitting around for months...
Does that make sence?
Not to me.....
I asked why and they said because it's been sitting around for months...
Does that make sence?
Not to me.....
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You are correct every single engine is ran on the dyno before we package or send that engine out, the reason why we still do recommend that you follow a break-in once you get the engine is because we cannot guarantee how long that engine has been sitting in storage before you receive the engine. This is also a good time to double check your initial and total timing on the engine and to make sure that you do not have any leaks on the engine anywhere. I hope this makes sense as to why we say that and if you have any other questions let me know.
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Good price ... I would .. it is just me .. Prefer the forged crank .. I know the GM small blocks come with a forged crank ....... Also they use roller cams . Slightly more power and have the intake on them .. http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet+Perf...01295/10002/-1
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MrJlr,
You are correct every single engine is ran on the dyno before we package or send that engine out, the reason why we still do recommend that you follow a break-in once you get the engine is because we cannot guarantee how long that engine has been sitting in storage before you receive the engine. This is also a good time to double check your initial and total timing on the engine and to make sure that you do not have any leaks on the engine anywhere. I hope this makes sense as to why we say that and if you have any other questions let me know.
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
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1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
You are correct every single engine is ran on the dyno before we package or send that engine out, the reason why we still do recommend that you follow a break-in once you get the engine is because we cannot guarantee how long that engine has been sitting in storage before you receive the engine. This is also a good time to double check your initial and total timing on the engine and to make sure that you do not have any leaks on the engine anywhere. I hope this makes sense as to why we say that and if you have any other questions let me know.
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
I'll probably be ordering next week
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on a roller cam engine i would agree. however on a flat tappet engine running it on a dyno without breaking it in would be irresponsible. i am sure most if not all their crate engine have roller cams.
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It is a forged crank , and a roller cam .. and 9.6 to 1 with a tad more power ..
Chevy heavy beam rods with 150,000 PSI bolts
Hypereutectic pistons; 10.0 to 1 Compression
Hastings Moly rings
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Melling high volume oil pump
Heavy duty double roller timing set
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It is a forged crank , and a roller cam .. and 9.6 to 1 with a tad more power ..
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I don't understand how storage affects this - if it's run on the dyno, it's fully broken-in.
Makes no sense to me...
Possibly they're just firing the engines briefly vs. doing a full dyno run with the associated sheet. IMHO, that would be a Bad Thing.
Makes no sense to me...
Possibly they're just firing the engines briefly vs. doing a full dyno run with the associated sheet. IMHO, that would be a Bad Thing.
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I honestly can't imagine they have hundreds of engines sitting around the warehouse. That's the way it came off to me anyhow. Like the inventory is so big they can't possibly keep track of what engine was ran when. Personally if it was my company everything would have a tag with the date of the run and the dyno sheet. But it's not my company
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That was one of the engines that made it to my final 5 choices. I ended buying this yesterday from Skip White Performance,,, http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/...Item=383STG2TK
I upgraded to the forged crank, Quik Fuel 850 carb, 8.8 mm accell wires, new flywheel balanced to this engine, MSD box, paid an extra $350 for 8 pulls on the dyno to fine tune MY engine. All told,, $6529.00 shipped to my door. Think it's a good deal, can't wait to get it. The '79 has been off the road for 10 years. Good luck with yours, hope it treats ya well.
Bill A
I upgraded to the forged crank, Quik Fuel 850 carb, 8.8 mm accell wires, new flywheel balanced to this engine, MSD box, paid an extra $350 for 8 pulls on the dyno to fine tune MY engine. All told,, $6529.00 shipped to my door. Think it's a good deal, can't wait to get it. The '79 has been off the road for 10 years. Good luck with yours, hope it treats ya well.
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Hey guys,
I contacted our engineering team for some clarification - ALL cams, flat tappet or roller cams are broken in when we start them before we do our dyno runs. But when I checked with our quality control department they recommend that the customer still does the break in as well - just as a precaution and to make sure there are not any issues with the engine during that first startup for you. It does seem redundant but it is better safe than sorry.
EVERY engine is dyno tested before it goes into inventory. And because we supply all of the major mail order catalogs (Summit, JEGS, and Speedway – along with many other great customers!) we do our best to keep them on hand and ready to ship when an order is placed. In addition, every engine DOES come with a Dyno sheet – specific to your engine (including date/time, and many other details that our competitors would love to get their hands on!)
In reference to the question about a 383 with a roller cam and forged components – we build that too! Here is a link to our website and that specific engine. http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ase-bp38316ct1.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
I contacted our engineering team for some clarification - ALL cams, flat tappet or roller cams are broken in when we start them before we do our dyno runs. But when I checked with our quality control department they recommend that the customer still does the break in as well - just as a precaution and to make sure there are not any issues with the engine during that first startup for you. It does seem redundant but it is better safe than sorry.
EVERY engine is dyno tested before it goes into inventory. And because we supply all of the major mail order catalogs (Summit, JEGS, and Speedway – along with many other great customers!) we do our best to keep them on hand and ready to ship when an order is placed. In addition, every engine DOES come with a Dyno sheet – specific to your engine (including date/time, and many other details that our competitors would love to get their hands on!)
In reference to the question about a 383 with a roller cam and forged components – we build that too! Here is a link to our website and that specific engine. http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ase-bp38316ct1.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
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Hey guys,
I contacted our engineering team for some clarification - ALL cams, flat tappet or roller cams are broken in when we start them before we do our dyno runs. But when I checked with our quality control department they recommend that the customer still does the break in as well - just as a precaution and to make sure there are not any issues with the engine during that first startup for you. It does seem redundant but it is better safe than sorry.
EVERY engine is dyno tested before it goes into inventory. And because we supply all of the major mail order catalogs (Summit, JEGS, and Speedway – along with many other great customers!) we do our best to keep them on hand and ready to ship when an order is placed. In addition, every engine DOES come with a Dyno sheet – specific to your engine (including date/time, and many other details that our competitors would love to get their hands on!)
In reference to the question about a 383 with a roller cam and forged components – we build that too! Here is a link to our website and that specific engine. http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ase-bp38316ct1.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
I contacted our engineering team for some clarification - ALL cams, flat tappet or roller cams are broken in when we start them before we do our dyno runs. But when I checked with our quality control department they recommend that the customer still does the break in as well - just as a precaution and to make sure there are not any issues with the engine during that first startup for you. It does seem redundant but it is better safe than sorry.
EVERY engine is dyno tested before it goes into inventory. And because we supply all of the major mail order catalogs (Summit, JEGS, and Speedway – along with many other great customers!) we do our best to keep them on hand and ready to ship when an order is placed. In addition, every engine DOES come with a Dyno sheet – specific to your engine (including date/time, and many other details that our competitors would love to get their hands on!)
In reference to the question about a 383 with a roller cam and forged components – we build that too! Here is a link to our website and that specific engine. http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ase-bp38316ct1.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
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Lots of Chinese parts on that 383 hope they have solved all their valve train problems....based on what we expirenced in the past we refuse o go there in our builds. Go to Church light a candle and say a prayer....
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Hey guys,
I contacted our engineering team for some clarification - ALL cams, flat tappet or roller cams are broken in when we start them before we do our dyno runs. But when I checked with our quality control department they recommend that the customer still does the break in as well - just as a precaution and to make sure there are not any issues with the engine during that first startup for you. It does seem redundant but it is better safe than sorry.
EVERY engine is dyno tested before it goes into inventory. And because we supply all of the major mail order catalogs (Summit, JEGS, and Speedway – along with many other great customers!) we do our best to keep them on hand and ready to ship when an order is placed. In addition, every engine DOES come with a Dyno sheet – specific to your engine (including date/time, and many other details that our competitors would love to get their hands on!)
In reference to the question about a 383 with a roller cam and forged components – we build that too! Here is a link to our website and that specific engine. http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ase-bp38316ct1.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
I contacted our engineering team for some clarification - ALL cams, flat tappet or roller cams are broken in when we start them before we do our dyno runs. But when I checked with our quality control department they recommend that the customer still does the break in as well - just as a precaution and to make sure there are not any issues with the engine during that first startup for you. It does seem redundant but it is better safe than sorry.
EVERY engine is dyno tested before it goes into inventory. And because we supply all of the major mail order catalogs (Summit, JEGS, and Speedway – along with many other great customers!) we do our best to keep them on hand and ready to ship when an order is placed. In addition, every engine DOES come with a Dyno sheet – specific to your engine (including date/time, and many other details that our competitors would love to get their hands on!)
In reference to the question about a 383 with a roller cam and forged components – we build that too! Here is a link to our website and that specific engine. http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ase-bp38316ct1.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Thank You,
Andrew Obermeier
BluePrint Engines
Product Specialist
1.800.483.4263 ext # 138
andrew@blueprintengines.com
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