1978 L82 Smog help
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yes cali suks. a tuned 75 l48 runs sweet and clean with no smog on 87 octane. lived in cali all my life, and **** politicos come with the weather here. play by the rules and mabee restomod a 74/75 to the Pace Car attire?
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From: L.A. area California
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nice, but no...i'm a purest. I even freak out a bit that my C5 has a CAI and exhaust...lol but great suggestion. Thanks.
Agreed on Cali...:/
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From: San Jose CA
Talk to your local DMV. The law says 7500 miles. The car you're looking at has 5000. I'm betting his car had more than 7500 miles.
I can't help but think they'd make an exception for a 35 year old car, but I haven't been able to find exceptions for age, only mileage.
I can't help but think they'd make an exception for a 35 year old car, but I haven't been able to find exceptions for age, only mileage.
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From: San Jose CA
H&S code (from http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...=43150-43156):
By their definition, the car you are purchasing is a NEW vehicle, not a direct import vehicle. See the following form for clarity: http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg256f.pdf
So you have a few options to get this car registered:
1. Find a DMV clerk who screws up and registers your car.
2. Have the seller put 2500 miles on it.
3. *assume* the car has 105,000 miles when you register it, since there are only 5 digits on the speedo (hey, maybe it does).
It's ridiculous, but I honestly can't see an exemption in the law for your case, no matter how stupid it is.
43156. (a) For purposes of this article, it is conclusively
presumed that the equitable or legal title to any motor vehicle with
an odometer reading of 7,500 miles or more, has been transferred to
an ultimate purchaser, except as provided in subdivision (b), and
that the equitable or legal title to any motor vehicle with an
odometer reading of less than 7,500 miles, has not been transferred
to an ultimate purchaser.
(b) For purposes of this article, it is conclusively presumed that
the equitable and legal title to any direct import vehicle which is
less than two years old has not been transferred to an ultimate
purchaser and that the equitable or legal title to any direct import
motor vehicle which is at least two years old has been transferred to
an ultimate purchaser.
For purposes of this subdivision, the age of a motor vehicle shall
be determined by the following, in descending order of preference:
(1) From the first calendar day of the model year as indicated in
the vehicle identification number.
(2) From the last calendar day of the month the vehicle was
delivered by the manufacturer as shown on the foreign title document.
(3) From January 1 of the same calendar year as the model year
shown on the foreign title document.
(4) From the last calendar day of the month the foreign title
document was issued.
presumed that the equitable or legal title to any motor vehicle with
an odometer reading of 7,500 miles or more, has been transferred to
an ultimate purchaser, except as provided in subdivision (b), and
that the equitable or legal title to any motor vehicle with an
odometer reading of less than 7,500 miles, has not been transferred
to an ultimate purchaser.
(b) For purposes of this article, it is conclusively presumed that
the equitable and legal title to any direct import vehicle which is
less than two years old has not been transferred to an ultimate
purchaser and that the equitable or legal title to any direct import
motor vehicle which is at least two years old has been transferred to
an ultimate purchaser.
For purposes of this subdivision, the age of a motor vehicle shall
be determined by the following, in descending order of preference:
(1) From the first calendar day of the model year as indicated in
the vehicle identification number.
(2) From the last calendar day of the month the vehicle was
delivered by the manufacturer as shown on the foreign title document.
(3) From January 1 of the same calendar year as the model year
shown on the foreign title document.
(4) From the last calendar day of the month the foreign title
document was issued.
So you have a few options to get this car registered:
1. Find a DMV clerk who screws up and registers your car.
2. Have the seller put 2500 miles on it.
3. *assume* the car has 105,000 miles when you register it, since there are only 5 digits on the speedo (hey, maybe it does).
It's ridiculous, but I honestly can't see an exemption in the law for your case, no matter how stupid it is.
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From: L.A. area California
But what about that whole 7500 miles rule...
ugh,
spoke to Corvette Mike in OC they said its fine as long as it has all emissions equipment that it rolled off the line with and its all in working order...but I failed to disclose that it only has 5000 miles on it...
making more calls....
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From: San Jose CA
Yup, once you get the car initially registered it will pass smog no problem. My 78 has a cam very similar to an L-82 cam and passes smog easily. I've known more than a few people with late 70's L-82 cars in CA as well.
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Also spoke to GM Downunder in Costa Mesa and they said that the 7500 miles rule doesn't apply to cars older than 10 years cuz it's 5 digit odometer....as long as it can pass smog....although I cant find that anywhere in writing.
Fug it! I'm buying it!!! Lol
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From: San Jose CA
My only concern would be that you'd have a paper trial saying the car had over 100k miles, but probably easily explained to the next buyer if the car visually and mechanically represents the claim.
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From: L.A. area California
Hey All!
I'm in California and looking to buy a 78 Silver Anniversary L-82 A/T from Maryland. 5,000 original miles!!! It has all original federal smog equipment installed. Will it be CA smog compliant? I thought I heard somewhere that all vettes were 50 state compliant but that doesn't sound right.
So I guess my question is will it pass smog in L.A. county and if not what do I need to make it pass...parts...cost...etc..??
thanks!
MLB
I'm in California and looking to buy a 78 Silver Anniversary L-82 A/T from Maryland. 5,000 original miles!!! It has all original federal smog equipment installed. Will it be CA smog compliant? I thought I heard somewhere that all vettes were 50 state compliant but that doesn't sound right.
So I guess my question is will it pass smog in L.A. county and if not what do I need to make it pass...parts...cost...etc..??
thanks!
MLB
My 78 Silver Anniversary Coupe arrived and passed smog no problems! Now just need to do a title transfer and register with DMV and all is good!
PS: Shout out to Jeff at Flemmings Ultimate garage in Rockeville MD.
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From: L.A. area California
Thanks! I see you're in So Cal...
Do you know of any local, reliable, trustworthy (Ventura county, northern LA county/Valley, Malibu) corvette shops? Need some minor repairs done...(clock repair, power antenna just quit...)
