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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 08:50 PM
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Still trying to put back together the 81 project I bought and have questions about the hood latch cable. While putting it back together the cable that joins the two latches has alot of slack in it so the DS latch will unlock but the PS side will not. To adjust, do you just pull the cotter pin and pull some slack from the cable?
Also, the complete cable [Iassembly[/I] moves when the latch is pulled. Is that correct or does the smaller cable need to move in the housing similar to a bicycle brake cable?
Next, the PO removed the latch handle in the car, I have a new one but it wont thread through the housing. Any tips/tricks on getting this through and up to the latch? It feels like there is something blocking the cable from going all the way through and then, where the cable housing comes up through the bottom of the fender, the housing has pulled away.
How do you get to that to reattach it?

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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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Here is a video of some dude that happen to have the same issue on a 1979.

It appears on the passenger side you adjust the cable like a brake cable on a bike.

How to get it up thru from the interior sorry cannot help but there may be a kink in the cable housing or an obstruction.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nspctr01
Still trying to put back together the 81 project I bought and have questions about the hood latch cable. While putting it back together the cable that joins the two latches has alot of slack in it so the DS latch will unlock but the PS side will not. To adjust, do you just pull the cotter pin and pull some slack from the cable?
Also, the complete cable [Iassembly[/I] moves when the latch is pulled. Is that correct or does the smaller cable need to move in the housing similar to a bicycle brake cable?
Next, the PO removed the latch handle in the car, I have a new one but it wont thread through the housing. Any tips/tricks on getting this through and up to the latch? It feels like there is something blocking the cable from going all the way through and then, where the cable housing comes up through the bottom of the fender, the housing has pulled away.
How do you get to that to reattach it?

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The hood cable needs to be screwed down on the ends where the tabs are and needs to be retained on the shield to work properly. Then just use the holes that match up when both latches are closed. It looks long, but it is correct.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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When I replaced the pull handle... I had to end up unbolt ing the handle tube ... Push the wire into it... Then feed the wire through the firewall ....rebolt the handle pull assembly...and attach wire to crossover latch assembly.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 10:33 PM
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I wonder if you can just use a bike brake cable? It seems to be a bit thicker/heavier material.
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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I got the cable fished through the housing but it didnt come up from under the latch like its supposed to. I'm afraid to ask "What do I do now"
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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OK...I am trying to follow what is going on here.

I am having to guess what is going on because I do not understand what you are doing from your posts...because they are not clearly defining on what you are doing.

I would not waste my time on using bike cable....so I do not know if you did or did not.

IF you replaced the hood release handle..then it should be long enough to poke through the firewall grommet area enough so you can slide the wire end through the left latch and get it to work.

If you adjust the cable end on the right side...and have the cross-over cable properly secured as designed. Your problem is that you need to either:

1.) Get the plastic distributor shield cover that has places in it for 2 plastic clips in it to hold the hood cross-over cable. Look for photo's of an original and see how it is installed and see the routing of the cable housing.

2.) Fabricate your own cross-over cable that is shorter and not needing to be secured as the factory designed. A bit of a pain in the backside...but I have seen guys who have made their own.

If you do not secure the extra cable housing length over the distributor area very well...the cable housing can move and not allow the cable to release the right side latch.

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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Sorry for the confusion. I began installing the latches and testing the cable between the two. I pulled the DS latch to ck and see if the PS latch worked and it did not. After checking further, it appears that the cable does not slide in the housing similar to a brake cable on a bicycle rather, the whole cable moves. I do not believe that is the way its supposed to work so I posted here for more info. While waiting, I attempted to reinstall the handle and cable under the dash that the PO removed. The cable would not go in but abt 3" and would stop. I tried fishing it through the housing for about 1.5 hours with no luck. I tried again this morning and got the cable in through the housing finally but it did not come through the grommet like its supposed to. I pulled the grommet out from under the latch and there is nothing in the box but wires. So my questions are:
How do you fish the cable from under the dash up to where it needs to go? and
Is the cable that goes from latch to latch supposed to move inside the housing? or does the whole cable move to operate the latches?
I hope that makes a little more sense.
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Sorry for the confusion. I began installing the latches and testing the cable between the two. I pulled the DS latch to ck and see if the PS latch worked and it did not. After checking further, it appears that the cable does not slide in the housing similar to a brake cable on a bicycle rather, the whole cable moves. I do not believe that is the way its supposed to work so I posted here for more info. While waiting, I attempted to reinstall the handle and cable under the dash that the PO removed. The cable would not go in but abt 3" and would stop. I tried fishing it through the housing for about 1.5 hours with no luck. I tried again this morning and got the cable in through the housing finally but it did not come through the grommet like its supposed to. I pulled the grommet out from under the latch and there is nothing in the box but wires. So my questions are:
How do you fish the cable from under the dash up to where it needs to go? and
Is the cable that goes from latch to latch supposed to move inside the housing? or does the whole cable move to operate the latches?
I hope that makes a little more sense.
You have to manually guide the cable housing into the area where you removed the grommet. The cable housing should pass through the grommet hole just a little bit...about 1/4" if that. Then the cable will go into the left latch and get secured by the cable stop.

YES...the cable will slide WITHIN the cable housing....BUT...AS I mentioned in the past post. It is VERY IMPORTANT that the cable housing is secured and NOT able to move. Because of its length and routing position...if you pull on the left side...the cable housing will move and NOT allow the cable to move INSIDE the housing because the cable housing is moving instead.

Did you look to see how the cable routes from a photo??? Unless you can see how the cable routes and is secured...you are fighting a losing battle and I can not help you if you do not take the time to investigate and see how things get installed. This is good, sound advice....if you choose not to use it...then you will keep running into problems that can be easily fixed if you install it the way it was designed. This is one area where "re-inventing the wheel" is pointless...unless you just like to re-design something.

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I have the cable between the latches secured but the inner cable is probably frozen in the sheath as it doesnt move freely. I will try and lube it but not sure how much that will free it up. Still trying to locate the hood release handle cable in the box. There is no sheath that comes up through the box tho unless it fell thru and I cannot see it. I removed the grommet and checked in side but all I see is the wiring harness.
I also got my lock actuators in so I will be trying to complete the windows this wknd.
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Originally Posted by nspctr01
I have the cable between the latches secured but the inner cable is probably frozen in the sheath as it doesnt move freely. I will try and lube it but not sure how much that will free it up. Still trying to locate the hood release handle cable in the box. There is no sheath that comes up through the box tho unless it fell thru and I cannot see it. I removed the grommet and checked in side but all I see is the wiring harness.
I also got my lock actuators in so I will be trying to complete the windows this wknd.
The bolded area is where you are loosing me. What do you mean by "box"????

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What I mean by box is the plastic box is where the grommet sits in to.
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Originally Posted by nspctr01
What I mean by box is the plastic box is where the grommet sits in to.
The oval black rubber grommet goes into the firewall...not a plastic black box.

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this is a pic from another vette. The cable comes up below the latch through the grommet attached to the box which is below the latch lever.
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I HATE PO'S.

It seems that the PO had pulled the sheath for the hood release cable from the firewall and tucked it behind the carpet.
Does someone have a pic or can tell me how to fish this and the cable back through. I cant even see where it goes. There is a spot just to the left of the fuse box that looks like it may be the spot but dont know.

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The cable passes through a grommet up under the dash. AIM UPC 11D Sheet 3. Your pic above shows the underhood side of the grommet. You'll be looking for the interior side of the same grommet when you crawl under the dash.

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Thx. I see that on that page but the cable and handle from inside the cab has been removed along w/ the housing. I dont know where it goes thru firewall and how it gets into the "Box" up thru the grommet. The PO removed this and I am having trouble figuring out how to replace it.
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UPDATE:

OK, I got the handle and sheathing reset thru the firewall and attempted to install pull handle w/ cable. Abt 5" in the cable hits a snag and will not feed. Tried from both directions and no go. Not sure what could be blocking progress but does anyone have any ideas on how to clear or should I get another housing?
If so, how hard are they to remove? I see one bolt pressed up behind the dash panel, do you have to pull the dash?

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I just put a new cable in my old housing, so don't know how hard the housing is to put in, sorry.


try running a solid piece of wire up the housing to open it up?
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