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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 01:45 PM
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I get mine really drunk and thank her the next day for her idea to build the new engine. Works like a charm. $10,000 later when she complains, I remind her that it was her idea.
That is so deceitful, dishonest, and just plain wrong, that I'm surprised I didn't think of it myself!

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Tempting as it was, to go with store bought AFR @$ 2000, hr cam&lfter, &rockers $1000. Bam $3000 and no wiggle room for setup.

I dunno, trying to be sensible, I get carried away easy, that video from earlier almost put me in the truck off to the city! If I toast this setup, the better half might not be so forgiving on popping another wad to start over mid summer, could cost me a corvette season.

Believe me I'm trying to weigh the options, my right foot is getting all cramped up thinking about it.
I got mine, 1034, on sale for $1600 two years ago. I also popped the extra $$$ for the HR retro cam, lifters and pushrods. My engine runs very nice. Yours will too!
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I get mine really drunk and thank her the next day for her idea to build the new engine. Works like a charm. $10,000 later when she complains, I remind her that it was her idea.
Oops she just read this and is threatening me with domestic violence if i i dont take the trash out.... Damn it, I'll be right back. Lol

This wouldnt have happened if only you'd payed attention!
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I got mine, 1034, on sale for $1600 two years ago. I also popped the extra $$$ for the HR retro cam, lifters and pushrods. My engine runs very nice. Yours will too!

Ya they're $1900 and change, + tax and what not. Which I guess is inline.
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I got mine, 1034, on sale for $1600 two years ago. I also popped the extra $$$ for the HR retro cam, lifters and pushrods. My engine runs very nice. Yours will too!

Ya they're $1900 and change, + tax and what not. Which I guess is inline.
Call Chris straub, 6 months or so ago I called him about a set of 210's, it might have been $1700 then. Google Straub technologies, email Chris, he'll have a real price.
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Call Chris straub, 6 months or so ago I called him about a set of 210's, it might have been $1700 then. Google Straub technologies, email Chris, he'll have a real price.
The problem is the shipping charges to Canada. Then the duty. Then the brokerage fee. You guys to the south have it real good. Oh, and to the north west.
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What say you guys to this. Instead of emailing I called today, told me they'd ship within a week, this would be cheaper then the AFRs I had a line on, and opens me up to 70 cc, which I thought is a nice compromise.
At this price I can add the hr cam and equip for about the same price as AFRs alone. Also stated that the shipping would probably end up being cheaper than on the page.
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Puts me right at 10:1
Is this a home run?
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Originally Posted by vettezobsezzed
I still have the882 heads with the steam holes, and they have the same 10k miles on them since overhaul. They are free, put that back together is only gonna cost me a head gasket. What would be a reasonable f/t cam be in this setup w/stoc heads? Realistically I could optimize this setup for about $500. Sidepipe$1100, wheels$1100, gets me some show, and a little go, under $3000
FWIW, my 73 came with a 406 and a set of 993 heads, 4 speed and 373 rear end. The PO had a pretty big cam, Holley 800 DP and a single plane intake. It was just ridiculous to drive. When I rebuilt the motor, went to .040 over, just had heads gone through and new flat top piston. Now running an Edelbrock RPM, Lunati 60103 cam and a smaller Holley. I know I'm leaving power on the table with those heads. But for what I need, it's more than enough...much better street manners.

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Originally Posted by vettezobsezzed

What say you guys to this. Instead of emailing I called today, told me they'd ship within a week, this would be cheaper then the AFRs I had a line on, and opens me up to 70 cc, which I thought is a nice compromise.
At this price I can add the hr cam and equip for about the same price as AFRs alone. Also stated that the shipping would probably end up being cheaper than on the page.
If you get the right camshaft to optimize the heads, sounds like it would make a good combo. Do they have flow numbers for heads?
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The problem is the shipping charges to Canada. Then the duty. Then the brokerage fee. You guys to the south have it real good. Oh, and to the north west.
Somewhere I must have missed that he's in Canada(now that I look at his profile). It cost a left nut to get any thing shipped up here. When I was in the planning stages of the 400" most places had free ground shipping to the lower 48, which ain't Alaska, I saved 600.00 by buying short block instead of shipping individual parts with shipping.

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I don't have the flow numbers off hand, I'd seriously looked intotheeseawhile ago, and I recall the numbers weregood, not AFRs but a strong runner up.
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Originally Posted by vettezobsezzed


Puts me right at 10:1
Is this a home run?
That is pretty sweet. I would go with a 210 head if your buying them new. And a .027 gasket or .021 if you can get it. Check direct with Cometic.
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I didn't ask about 210, but the 70cc kinda excited me, as with the other sheets I posted, I just threw that cam In there, no real rhyme or reason

The 210s option a 2.08 valve, would that be too much with the5cc relief, or am I gettngreedy
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Originally Posted by vettezobsezzed
I didn't ask about 210, but the 70cc kinda excited me, as with the other sheets I posted, I just threw that cam In there, no real rhyme or reason

The 210s option a 2.08 valve, would that be too much with the5cc relief, or am I gettngreedy
2.08 valve should be fine. 210 is only available with 2.08 or 2.10 valve.
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Originally Posted by vettezobsezzed
I didn't ask about 210, but the 70cc kinda excited me, as with the other sheets I posted, I just threw that cam In there, no real rhyme or reason

The 210s option a 2.08 valve, would that be too much with the5cc relief, or am I gettngreedy
The 210's would probably flow as well as the afr 195's if not a hair more, you'd still want the flow numbers to determine what cam shaft you were going to run. youd want to check valve radius to piston clearence.
I can't remeber ever hearing anything bad about profile, if I recall correctly they've got a pretty big following.

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Originally Posted by vettezobsezzed
I didn't ask about 210, but the 70cc kinda excited me, as with the other sheets I posted, I just threw that cam In there, no real rhyme or reason

The 210s option a 2.08 valve, would that be too much with the5cc relief, or am I gettngreedy
The 210 is actually the proper size head for your engine size.Both sizes use a 1206 intake gasket and approximate flow numbers are 285 cfm for 195 head and 300 cfm for 210 head.Check out Chad Speier's website 1320 techtalk,it has dyno and track results for both.The only issue with the 2.08 valve would be the valve pockets in your pistons.Do you know who made the pistons?I have cp bullet pistons in mine and clearance is not an issue.
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The 210 is actually the proper size head for your engine size.Both sizes use a 1206 intake gasket and approximate flow numbers are 285 cfm for 195 head and 300 cfm for 210 head.Check out Chad Speier's website 1320 techtalk,it has dyno and track results for both.The only issue with the 2.08 valve would be the valve pockets in your pistons.Do you know who made the pistons?I have cp bullet pistons in mine and clearance is not an issue.
They look to flow real well, the only thing I don't know about is 4.155'' fixture versus a 4.060'' fixture, if the fixture size doesn't matter, then they out flow afr for a cheaper price.. I don't even know that this would make any difference in the flow testing. Not that this is realivent, but maybe you, mako or any one can explain the differences between that and the differences between wet and dry flow. For the money it looks like a screeming deal that flows well.

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I gotta say, I liked what I saw onthe website today, and dollar for dollar + the variety of chamber cc, I think they're a front runner for me. Now... Pulling the trigger, think I'm ready. I'll sleep onit anyway, maybe another day of hard classifieds searches.
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http://www.users.interport.net/s/r/s...ehdc.htm#Chevy

This is strange. If you go to this site and scroll down to Pro-filer there are a variety of flow testing on the 195 and the 210. Looks to me like the 195 out of the box numbers are higher or at least comparable to the out of the box 210's even when the testing is done by the same person. Might want to check other sources and call profiler but if this is the case there is 0 advantage to the 210 vs 195. Flow is flow and better flow through a smaller port is a win win.

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