Windshield
Burning Brakes
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Tim, thats the thing about his kit. Dam tape, supposedly close to what was originally used, but not the exact same. Rubber spacing blocks, rubber gloves, pre cut nozzles some plastic stick and the sealant. And it was $130 + shipping. As mentioned not a very secure ordering process. I really liked his technique, he seemed very good. But at some point common sense has to prevail, and I felt the 3m window weld ribbon was a solid route to go as well. As for the spacing blocks I used, they were what was provided in the 3m window weld kit. about 3/8" thick, but they were a bit compressible so probably 11/32 or so with the window weight on it.
The nozzles pre cut like in the video can be purchased in packages of 12, so it appears he is just re packaging them and selling them in his kit.
130.00 seems steep for what you get.
I will get my windshield Monday so i can start test fitting it
Last edited by Tim 1973; Sep 27, 2014 at 01:27 PM.
Burning Brakes
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well The glass will fit great but will need to go to 3/8" spacing from the pinch weld to the glass. Once I switched my test spacers to 3/8" the trim fit just like it should (against the glass). I now need to find some 3/8" damming strips. The 1/4" will be a little thin...
Burning Brakes
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New question, I pulled all the trim out for the t-tops and windshield area. The SS I will be re polishing my self. The front corners I purchased new chrome moldings. The Rear upper molding as its called in the assembly manual I can not seem to find any one selling them. I have them but they are pitted and would need to be re-chromed but have found it cheaper to buy new if they are available. Does anyone sell them?
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damming strip
well The glass will fit great but will need to go to 3/8" spacing from the pinch weld to the glass. Once I switched my test spacers to 3/8" the trim fit just like it should (against the glass). I now need to find some 3/8" damming strips. The 1/4" will be a little thin...
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Burning Brakes
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Use the 08612 as a spacer... with the urethane. I can't use this in Indiana as a glass retaining sealer any longer... I have to use urethane. The only exemption is if the customer is willing to sign a waiver.
I cut it off in sections of 1". I squeeze it a bit to get a taller spacer depending on what I need. The weight of the glass will help you seat it a bit if you are too tall.
If you use this for a spacer, do not use clamps to hold the glass down. Make sure you use a spacer (rubber included with the 8612 kit under the glass on the set bracket..)
What you don't want to happen is A) the glass to sink in the urethane (thus the old school spacers) and B) You don't want the glass sliding down.. (thus the rubber spacer on the set bracket)
Willcox
I cut it off in sections of 1". I squeeze it a bit to get a taller spacer depending on what I need. The weight of the glass will help you seat it a bit if you are too tall.
If you use this for a spacer, do not use clamps to hold the glass down. Make sure you use a spacer (rubber included with the 8612 kit under the glass on the set bracket..)
What you don't want to happen is A) the glass to sink in the urethane (thus the old school spacers) and B) You don't want the glass sliding down.. (thus the rubber spacer on the set bracket)
Willcox
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Use the 08612 as a spacer... with the urethane. I can't use this in Indiana as a glass retaining sealer any longer... I have to use urethane. The only exemption is if the customer is willing to sign a waiver.
I cut it off in sections of 1". I squeeze it a bit to get a taller spacer depending on what I need. The weight of the glass will help you seat it a bit if you are too tall.
If you use this for a spacer, do not use clamps to hold the glass down. Make sure you use a spacer (rubber included with the 8612 kit under the glass on the set bracket..)
What you don't want to happen is A) the glass to sink in the urethane (thus the old school spacers) and B) You don't want the glass sliding down.. (thus the rubber spacer on the set bracket)
Willcox
I cut it off in sections of 1". I squeeze it a bit to get a taller spacer depending on what I need. The weight of the glass will help you seat it a bit if you are too tall.
If you use this for a spacer, do not use clamps to hold the glass down. Make sure you use a spacer (rubber included with the 8612 kit under the glass on the set bracket..)
What you don't want to happen is A) the glass to sink in the urethane (thus the old school spacers) and B) You don't want the glass sliding down.. (thus the rubber spacer on the set bracket)
Willcox
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I agree with Tim on the damming strip. Alan71 has talked about this regularly, and besides spacing the windshield, the main purpose is as Tim says to prevent urethane from squeezing inward, and making a nice appearance. According to Alan, this is how Chevy did it in the first place. Last think I want to see around the inside perimeter of the window is oooozing urethane.
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I agree with Tim on the damming strip. Alan71 has talked about this regularly, and besides spacing the windshield, the main purpose is as Tim says to prevent urethane from squeezing inward, and making a nice appearance. According to Alan, this is how Chevy did it in the first place. Last think I want to see around the inside perimeter of the window is oooozing urethane.
The other issue is thickness of the windshields. If you use the 8612 3/8 tape and a repro windshield you'll be slighted a bit on how tall the glass is in relation to the moldings but it will still be a little low.
If you are using a original glass I use the 5/16 tape, not the 3/8.
If I used a repro glass I used the 3/8 but only as spacers for the urethane and even then I squeeze them up a bit so it rides a bit higher. Because the spacers are only 1" long you can push the repro glass down pretty easy to obtain the correct height and if you do it this way. It will give you a comfort zone.
If our customer request tape only he then is required to sign a sign off release for us.
IMHO,
Willcox
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Gm used the the 8611 5/16 tape forever, up to 82 I believe. The only issue is most states won't allow you to use it now and installers must use urethane.
The other issue is thickness of the windshields. If you use the 8612 3/8 tape and a repro windshield you'll be slighted a bit on how tall the glass is in relation to the moldings but it will still be a little low.
If you are using a original glass I use the 5/16 tape, not the 3/8.
If I used a repro glass I used the 3/8 but only as spacers for the urethane and even then I squeeze them up a bit so it rides a bit higher. Because the spacers are only 1" long you can push the repro glass down pretty easy to obtain the correct height and if you do it this way. It will give you a comfort zone.
If our customer request tape only he then is required to sign a sign off release for us.
IMHO,
Willcox
The other issue is thickness of the windshields. If you use the 8612 3/8 tape and a repro windshield you'll be slighted a bit on how tall the glass is in relation to the moldings but it will still be a little low.
If you are using a original glass I use the 5/16 tape, not the 3/8.
If I used a repro glass I used the 3/8 but only as spacers for the urethane and even then I squeeze them up a bit so it rides a bit higher. Because the spacers are only 1" long you can push the repro glass down pretty easy to obtain the correct height and if you do it this way. It will give you a comfort zone.
If our customer request tape only he then is required to sign a sign off release for us.
IMHO,
Willcox
Burning Brakes
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IWMNHG,
I hope you are not in a real hurry while we hunt for the correct thickness of damming tape. We will find it, just might take a few weeks. We both know how we want to install our windshields. I'm very particular and on getting the best look that is possible. Did the same ting when building my 37.....
I hope you are not in a real hurry while we hunt for the correct thickness of damming tape. We will find it, just might take a few weeks. We both know how we want to install our windshields. I'm very particular and on getting the best look that is possible. Did the same ting when building my 37.....
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I fully understand about the 3/8 butyl, but you are not reading what Tim and I are saying. The damming strip is a dense foam materials that rides inside the urethane bead to prevent the "dam" the urethance from oozing inward. So, maybe you could use this 3/8 butyl tape as a damming strip, but it is not the same. See Alan 71 description of damming strip.
I've installed probably thirty or so windshields in the last five years.. I've never used damming tape and never had a problem with the urethane oozing.
IMHO, but it seems like re-inventing the wheel. It may also be the fact that I have a pneumatic caulk gun.. that gives a nice clean rounded bead to the urethane. The urethane doesn't just drip out when you put it in. At least the stuff we use doesn't.....
But I also believe that Alan's comment..
"I used no spacing blocks, but rather used a damming strip as a continuous spacer as I believe was used in St. Louis".
is being confused. I feel certain that Alan is used the 8611 or 8612 glasss ribbon tape...
Both of you are doing the jobs yourself.. why not just use the ribbon tape above and have the correct stuff. (unless you can't in your state, I'm not sure about that).
Willcox
Last edited by Willcox Corvette; Oct 11, 2014 at 10:21 PM.
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Damming Strip
Burning Brakes
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I sent you a link in a pm last week.. Once done and I post the write up with pictures, I will include the link. I want to make sure it is going to work as I expect it will before posting it to CF