Front clip/Hood alignment
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Front clip/Hood alignment
There is a vertical gap of about 1/4 inch between the front edge of my hood and the front clip - the hood is higher. Don't think the hood can be adjusted lower. Seems like the front clip should be able to be pulled up. I've reviewed every page of the ***'y manual and there's nothing showing how the body is attached to the frame up front. Helpful info wouold sure be appreciated.
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you didn t mention year .. but there is a support rod from radiator support up to Headlamp Mount support that will allow you to raise it to match hood.. Yours may be missing.. Ecklers or any of the Vendors have it.. about $15... tried to put up the link but it won t work.. try this http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...size=50&page=1
Last edited by fishslayer143; Nov 29, 2015 at 06:29 PM. Reason: #@$##^%$$%$%$ itch
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Hi Bob,
The brace that f mentions installs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the front bumper at the large center bumper bracket. I believe it has very little effect on the height of the nose and is intended to help stabilize it.
Is the difference even from side to side?
If there are presently no shims UNDER the hood hinges you might try putting shims under the hinges at just the rear bolts of the hinges.
Since the pivot point in the hinge is forward of the hinge mount, tipping the rear of the hinge up a little has the effect of tipping the pivot DOWN a little which MAY help your gap a bit.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
The brace that f mentions installs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the front bumper at the large center bumper bracket. I believe it has very little effect on the height of the nose and is intended to help stabilize it.
Is the difference even from side to side?
If there are presently no shims UNDER the hood hinges you might try putting shims under the hinges at just the rear bolts of the hinges.
Since the pivot point in the hinge is forward of the hinge mount, tipping the rear of the hinge up a little has the effect of tipping the pivot DOWN a little which MAY help your gap a bit.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Nov 29, 2015 at 06:54 PM.
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YES...knowing what year you have is needed.
Look at this.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...questions.html
DUB
Look at this.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...questions.html
DUB
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From: new iberia la
Hi Bob,
The brace that f mentions installs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the front bumper at the large center bumper bracket. I believe it has very little effect on the height of the nose and is intended to help stabilize it.
Is the difference even from side to side?
If there are presently no shims UNDER the hood hinges you might try putting shims under the hinges at just the rear bolts of the hinges.
Since the pivot point in the hinge is forward of the hinge mount, tipping the rear of the hinge up a little has the effect of tipping the pivot DOWN a little which MAY help your gap a bit.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
The brace that f mentions installs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the front bumper at the large center bumper bracket. I believe it has very little effect on the height of the nose and is intended to help stabilize it.
Is the difference even from side to side?
If there are presently no shims UNDER the hood hinges you might try putting shims under the hinges at just the rear bolts of the hinges.
Since the pivot point in the hinge is forward of the hinge mount, tipping the rear of the hinge up a little has the effect of tipping the pivot DOWN a little which MAY help your gap a bit.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by fishslayer143; Nov 29, 2015 at 07:21 PM.
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clip
Has the front clip been like that or was it just replaced and now sits below the hood. Are there any shims under the core support? The center support rod is slotted which has a small amount of adjustment. More adjustment can be obtained come from shimming under the core support or both.
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Hi f,
I thought we were talking about a 68-72 car (as shown in Bob's album)…. which uses a different rod than the 73+ and runs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the the front clip's steel inner reinforcement at the bumper.
The rod's end at the reinforcement is slotted because that distance will vary from car to car. I certainly wouldn't want to use that rod to put any upward pressure on the center front of the clip!
Regards,
Alan
I thought we were talking about a 68-72 car (as shown in Bob's album)…. which uses a different rod than the 73+ and runs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the the front clip's steel inner reinforcement at the bumper.
The rod's end at the reinforcement is slotted because that distance will vary from car to car. I certainly wouldn't want to use that rod to put any upward pressure on the center front of the clip!
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Nov 30, 2015 at 08:32 AM.
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Hi f,
I thought we were talking about a 68-72 car (as shown in Bob's album)…. which uses a different rod the the 73+ and runs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the the front clip's steel inner reinforcement at the bumper.
The rod's end at the reinforcement is slotted because that distance will vary from car to car. I certainly wouldn't want to use that rod to put any upward pressure on the center front of the clip!
Regards,
Alan
I thought we were talking about a 68-72 car (as shown in Bob's album)…. which uses a different rod the the 73+ and runs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the the front clip's steel inner reinforcement at the bumper.
The rod's end at the reinforcement is slotted because that distance will vary from car to car. I certainly wouldn't want to use that rod to put any upward pressure on the center front of the clip!
Regards,
Alan
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hood adjustment
Hi Bob,
The brace that f mentions installs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the front bumper at the large center bumper bracket. I believe it has very little effect on the height of the nose and is intended to help stabilize it.
Is the difference even from side to side?
If there are presently no shims UNDER the hood hinges you might try putting shims under the hinges at just the rear bolts of the hinges.
Since the pivot point in the hinge is forward of the hinge mount, tipping the rear of the hinge up a little has the effect of tipping the pivot DOWN a little which MAY help your gap a bit.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
The brace that f mentions installs from the bottom of the core support to the center of the front bumper at the large center bumper bracket. I believe it has very little effect on the height of the nose and is intended to help stabilize it.
Is the difference even from side to side?
If there are presently no shims UNDER the hood hinges you might try putting shims under the hinges at just the rear bolts of the hinges.
Since the pivot point in the hinge is forward of the hinge mount, tipping the rear of the hinge up a little has the effect of tipping the pivot DOWN a little which MAY help your gap a bit.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan
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you didn t mention year .. but there is a support rod from radiator support up to Headlamp Mount support that will allow you to raise it to match hood.. Yours may be missing.. Ecklers or any of the Vendors have it.. about $15... tried to put up the link but it won t work.. try this http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...size=50&page=1
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YES...knowing what year you have is needed.
Look at this.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...questions.html
DUB
Look at this.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...questions.html
DUB
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Alan- I had to take my hood off a week ago when I started my front end rebuild, cause the driver side latch would not release. I reached up thru the grill and removed the hinge bolts. I thought I would properly align the hood (it was tight on the front left) when I re-installed it, but the holes for the bolts have no leeway to adjust. I plan on getting my Dremmel tool and making the holes oblong so I can move it around. I did this already for the passenger side latch and it makes a big difference.
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Hi Bob,
From the description in your last post I'm thinking that shimming the hinges isn't going to help. It would help if the gap was consistent across the entire hood.
The rod that f described for use on 73+ cars might actually have the effect you're looking for but I'm not sure that it can be used on 72- cars. If it were used would it be used in addition to the intended rod or in place of it?
?
Regards,
Alan
From the description in your last post I'm thinking that shimming the hinges isn't going to help. It would help if the gap was consistent across the entire hood.
The rod that f described for use on 73+ cars might actually have the effect you're looking for but I'm not sure that it can be used on 72- cars. If it were used would it be used in addition to the intended rod or in place of it?
?
Regards,
Alan
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Bob,
Are you looking for a solution that will fix this issue that DOES NOT effect any judging???
If you do not care about judging...then I know what it will take to fix this IF as your wrote: the "hood is higher".
I am not going to be on the forum for the next few days...so if you can wait...great...if you fix it...great.
PM me if you are interested so I know that you need assistance.
I have some specific questions that I would need to ask you due to they have not been asked nor these key areas have not yet been touched on....and that is assuming that this car has not be hacked on by someone in the past.
DUB
Are you looking for a solution that will fix this issue that DOES NOT effect any judging???
If you do not care about judging...then I know what it will take to fix this IF as your wrote: the "hood is higher".
I am not going to be on the forum for the next few days...so if you can wait...great...if you fix it...great.
PM me if you are interested so I know that you need assistance.
I have some specific questions that I would need to ask you due to they have not been asked nor these key areas have not yet been touched on....and that is assuming that this car has not be hacked on by someone in the past.
DUB
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Bob,
Are you looking for a solution that will fix this issue that DOES NOT effect any judging???
If you do not care about judging...then I know what it will take to fix this IF as your wrote: the "hood is higher".
I am not going to be on the forum for the next few days...so if you can wait...great...if you fix it...great.
PM me if you are interested so I know that you need assistance.
I have some specific questions that I would need to ask you due to they have not been asked nor these key areas have not yet been touched on....and that is assuming that this car has not be hacked on by someone in the past.
DUB
Are you looking for a solution that will fix this issue that DOES NOT effect any judging???
If you do not care about judging...then I know what it will take to fix this IF as your wrote: the "hood is higher".
I am not going to be on the forum for the next few days...so if you can wait...great...if you fix it...great.
PM me if you are interested so I know that you need assistance.
I have some specific questions that I would need to ask you due to they have not been asked nor these key areas have not yet been touched on....and that is assuming that this car has not be hacked on by someone in the past.
DUB
Last edited by fishslayer143; Dec 2, 2015 at 05:59 PM.
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http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corve...1968-1972.html
Which is why I wrote what I wrote about if he is concnered about judging.
DUB
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There is one for 68 to 72
CORVETTE NOSE SUPPORT ROD
Item#:423002
GM#:3972306, 3974016
Price:20.50
Pkg:EACH
Year:1968-1972
#423002 and #423045 rods ******* radiator support to hood surround reinforcement. *** ******* Its a simple fix but, You do what you like.. not my car. Just a suggestion based on the many years I spent running a Shop specializing in Corvette Collision Repairs and Customizing.. And If I m not mistaken, OP says his car already has one. Just need to adjust it as Factory intended...
CORVETTE NOSE SUPPORT ROD
Item#:423002
GM#:3972306, 3974016
Price:20.50
Pkg:EACH
Year:1968-1972
#423002 and #423045 rods ******* radiator support to hood surround reinforcement. *** ******* Its a simple fix but, You do what you like.. not my car. Just a suggestion based on the many years I spent running a Shop specializing in Corvette Collision Repairs and Customizing.. And If I m not mistaken, OP says his car already has one. Just need to adjust it as Factory intended...
Last edited by fishslayer143; Dec 2, 2015 at 06:48 PM.
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There is one for 68 to 72
CORVETTE NOSE SUPPORT ROD
Item#:423002
GM#:3972306, 3974016
Price:20.50
Pkg:EACH
Year:1968-1972
#423002 and #423045 rods ******* radiator support to hood surround reinforcement. *** ******* Its a simple fix but, You do what you like.. not my car. Just a suggestion based on the many years I spent running a Shop specializing in Corvette Collision Repairs and Customizing.. And If I m not mistaken, OP says his car already has one. Just need to adjust it as Factory intended...
CORVETTE NOSE SUPPORT ROD
Item#:423002
GM#:3972306, 3974016
Price:20.50
Pkg:EACH
Year:1968-1972
#423002 and #423045 rods ******* radiator support to hood surround reinforcement. *** ******* Its a simple fix but, You do what you like.. not my car. Just a suggestion based on the many years I spent running a Shop specializing in Corvette Collision Repairs and Customizing.. And If I m not mistaken, OP says his car already has one. Just need to adjust it as Factory intended...
And you should know that if he has the factory correct support rod for his 1970.....it can not change the headlight support beam dimension at the hood because it bolts to the radiator support and the support brace on the backside of the top hood surround behind the bumper..in the center. And being secured there....it can not effect the panel flushness issue as effectively as what GM did in 1973. The support rod is too far away from where the problem is....which is why the change in design/location of mounting. it is only logical.
So it depends on IF he has a factory support rod...which I feel he does..and which is why I asked him if he is worried about judging.
DUB
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YEAH...I also do Corvette repair for a living and have for a very long time... AND I do know that the rod support 'in question' DOES make difference on which one he has due to the drastic design change on where they mount.
And you should know that if he has the factory correct support rod for his 1970.....it can not change the headlight support beam dimension at the hood because it bolts to the radiator support and the support brace on the backside of the top hood surround behind the bumper..in the center. And being secured there....it can not effect the panel flushness issue as effectively as what GM did in 1973. The support rod is too far away from where the problem is....which is why the change in design/location of mounting. it is only logical.
So it depends on IF he has a factory support rod...which I feel he does..and which is why I asked him if he is worried about judging.
DUB
And you should know that if he has the factory correct support rod for his 1970.....it can not change the headlight support beam dimension at the hood because it bolts to the radiator support and the support brace on the backside of the top hood surround behind the bumper..in the center. And being secured there....it can not effect the panel flushness issue as effectively as what GM did in 1973. The support rod is too far away from where the problem is....which is why the change in design/location of mounting. it is only logical.
So it depends on IF he has a factory support rod...which I feel he does..and which is why I asked him if he is worried about judging.
DUB