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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 06:37 AM
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How about a length of 2x4 at the base of the wheel. One that comes close to the opposite wall. Then stick a bottle jack between the end of the 2x4 and the base of the wall and jack the 2x4 against the wheel. That should generate sufficient force to pop it off.
I'll consider this. Hydraulics do great things.

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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by REELAV8R
How about a length of 2x4 at the base of the wheel. One that comes close to the opposite wall. Then stick a bottle jack between the end of the 2x4 and the base of the wall and jack the 2x4 against the wheel. That should generate sufficient force to pop it off.


Wouldn't that slow, steady type of pressure push the car off the jack stands? My MG wheels were a beast. Ended up whacking the inside of the wheel with a heavy mallet while my wife turned/spun the wheel.
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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Elba Mike
Wouldn't that slow, steady type of pressure push the car off the jack stands?
EM,

If the pressures involved came to that, yes, I suppose it would. But if it did, I'd stop with the bottle jack pressure immediately, and then resort to another method.
BTW, were those wire wheels on your MG?

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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 08:19 AM
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If the pressures involved came to that, yes, I suppose it would. But if it did, I'd stop with the bottle jack pressure immediately, and then resort to another method.
BTW, were those wire wheels on your MG?

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I'm a bit paranoid when I'm under a car, so safety, safety, safety. And yes, wire wheels with spinners. Loved that car as much as I hated it.
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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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Roadwheel? That's a new one on me.
I've done it 3-stooges style by whacking HARD on the tire with an 8 pound sledge. It was on an old truck with junk wheels that I didn't care if I hit, though. Mine was rusted in place and after I'd tried prying from every angle, I whacked it several times good and hard and it finally broke loose.
Makes you glad it's at home/shop and not on the road somewhere, though, doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by Elba Mike
I'm a bit paranoid when I'm under a car, so safety, safety, safety. And yes, wire wheels with spinners. Loved that car as much as I hated it.
It's the Rotorhead in you my friend.

Under the car and kicking the tire. Humm: What would they say at the inquest? That's a question I often ask myself in situations like this. I'm confident the term Darwin Award would come up.

I've unknowingly practiced Risk Management years before it became formal education. I'd like to think I'm alive today because of it too.

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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by L88Plus
Roadwheel? That's a new one on me.
I've done it 3-stooges style by whacking HARD on the tire with an 8 pound sledge. It was on an old truck with junk wheels that I didn't care if I hit, though. Mine was rusted in place and after I'd tried prying from every angle, I whacked it several times good and hard and it finally broke loose.
Makes you glad it's at home/shop and not on the road somewhere, though, doesn't it?
Ha! Indeed.
Tow Trucks in this area may have competitive pricing, but still an unnecessary cost with prevent defense.
When was the last time you had your rear wheels off?

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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Elba Mike
Wouldn't that slow, steady type of pressure push the car off the jack stands? My MG wheels were a beast. Ended up whacking the inside of the wheel with a heavy mallet while my wife turned/spun the wheel.
Well that is possible gonna have to use judgment on how much force can be applied.
If you have a lot of force on it go over to the opposite side of the car and jiggle it against the 2x4 force to try to pop it off.
You could always install all the other tires and just have that one in the air with jack stands at several locations for when it does pop off.

My guess is that the back side of the rim is rusted to the face of the hub on the wheel and it may take considerable force to break it free.
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Way back a forum member posted he drove around town all day and got home and discovered not one wheel nut was on one of his wheels.
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Originally Posted by L88Plus
Roadwheel? That's a new one on me.
I've done it 3-stooges style by whacking HARD on the tire with an 8 pound sledge. It was on an old truck with junk wheels that I didn't care if I hit, though. Mine was rusted in place and after I'd tried prying from every angle, I whacked it several times good and hard and it finally broke loose.
Makes you glad it's at home/shop and not on the road somewhere, though, doesn't it?


And if an 8 lb sledge doesn't do the trick then go bigger! But it should break free with a good swing or two.
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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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An old wooden baseball bat works well and won't damage the rim or you can use some PB Blaster to soak with a little heat.
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Old Jan 17, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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OMG! Will you guys quit suggesting things like bottle jacks and heat guns? Rims stuck on hubs have been a problem since cars were invented. The Solution has ALWAYS been 1) Sledge hammer to the rubber or 2) Mule kick it.

If you are really worried about safety, just have the one wheel side on a jackstand, and only 3-4 inches off the ground. With the lugs backed off to the last few threads......mule kick that tire like you want to send it into orbit.

IF you choose the sledge hammer method, be aware that the hammer WILL bounce back. Make sure your head isnt in that path. (Dont ask. I was young and inexperienced)
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Originally Posted by Scottd
OMG! Will you guys quit suggesting things like bottle jacks and heat guns? Rims stuck on hubs have been a problem since cars were invented. The Solution has ALWAYS been 1) Sledge hammer to the rubber or 2) Mule kick it.

If you are really worried about safety, just have the one wheel side on a jackstand, and only 3-4 inches off the ground. With the lugs backed off to the last few threads......mule kick that tire like you want to send it into orbit.

IF you choose the sledge hammer method, be aware that the hammer WILL bounce back. Make sure your head isnt in that path. (Dont ask. I was young and inexperienced)
Not all these guys that own vettes are still young and able to use those methods. Leverage and hydraulic assist are your friend as you age and are not quite the stud the you used to be.
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Originally Posted by motorhead
way back a forum member posted he drove around town all day and got home and discovered not one wheel nut was on one of his wheels.
aaaaaahhhhhh!!!!
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I think it was the bigger sledge that did it. Also, after soaking overnight and another application of penetrant just before the big sledge; that was beneficial too.

You can bet; after I clean the wheel up, I'm sanding out that center hole a tad so this never happens again.

Thanks to all who contributed!

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Also repaint those areas. Rust is what caused your problem. Don't leave those surfaces bare to rust again.

Sometimes using a BFH is the way to go.

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Looking at the hub, I think the tightness was around the arrowed surface. I guess that entire hub face could be pained, no?


Six thousand miles worth of brake dust.


Powder coated stuff cleans up nice.
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Originally Posted by Cavu2u
Now, see how easy that was when using the "kiss" priciple.
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Now, see how easy that was when using the "kiss" priciple.
Yes Sir!

And a bigger hammer.
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