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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 01:09 AM
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I'm going to be reinstalling center gauge cluster, shift console, and parking brake cluster. Unfortunately I'm not the one that took it apart. Is there a best practice order to assemble? I'm guessing the parking brake console is last.

I'm not going to put the passenger side dash in yet as I'm waiting for speakers to arrive.
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The climate control portion is already installed.
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:07 AM
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Center cluster with gauges and wiring connections; trim screws installed but loose.

Console with HVAC and electrical connections. Nuts on the two studs under the center cluster installed but loose.

E-brake console fitted and bolt installed but not torqued.

Check fit of all, then tightened the trim screws. I usually leave the e-brake console bolt until last.

The AIM shows the installation of all of this, but not in a specific order of installation.
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Hi D,
I put the parking brake console in first, then the shifter console, (where it sits determines how the center gauge cluster fits in the opening between the dash pads), then left side dash, next the center gauge cluster, and lastly the right side dash.
The function of all the controls and gauges must be checked as you install them because you lose the access to them as you continue with the installation.
All the fasteners must be started but not tightened as you install the pieces… nothing should be tightened until everything is in place.
Then the fasteners should be tightened gradually and in sequence while the alignment between all the parts is adjusted properly.
The top of the center gauge bezel is EXTREMELY easy to break while trying to get things aligned! BE CAREFUL!!!! DON'T PUSH ON IT TO GET IT TO ALIGHN WITH THE UPPER DASH PAD!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Center cluster with gauges and wiring connections; trim screws installed but loose.

Console with HVAC and electrical connections. Nuts on the two studs under the center cluster installed but loose.

E-brake console fitted and bolt installed but not torqued.

Check fit of all, then tightened the trim screws. I usually leave the e-brake console bolt until last.

The AIM shows the installation of all of this, but not in a specific order of installation.


We generally install the wires to the center cluster and let sit there.... Like Alan said, be careful you don't break the thin area of the center dash bezel.

Then we install the center console, the parking brake console (slide and the front extension). You don't want to install the parking console before you install the shift console, you may need leverage off the parking brake handle assembly if it's a new forward console. We then install the center dash bezel, the passenger side dash pad and then we install the wiper switch plate and the top of the center console. The last two are in no particular order.

Don't forget the hidden bolt in the back of the parking brake console either, it gets installed from within the rear storage compartment. (some people leave this bolt out, we don't).


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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 10:53 AM
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My center gauge cluster was broke so have to swap in the new one that I've had for months. The previous owner removed the shift console, parking brake cover, and laid forward the cluster. The drivers side is untouched, and the passenger side dash is waiting on my replacement speakers. This likely will be my project for today or will hook up the heater hoses. I'm saving connecting the various AC lines till last, but trying to ensure access isn't impeded as I go. I only have one original line, still need to test the original expansion valve, otherwise everything else is new or rebuilt (POA valve calibrated to 134a)
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I may be out of line...but in your photo...it looks like you are missing the defroster duct.

Before you install any of this...I would advise you test your vacuum system for your HAVC ducts....that is if you care where the air comes out.

And I personally install the gauge cluster to the shifter console BEFORE I slide it in it final place. This is due to the two nuts that hold the gauge cluster to the shifter console. If the car is an A/C car with the vacuum harness...that left nut on the gauge cluster can be a 'bear' to get to and tighten. So..if this means I do not have any wiring or oil pressure tube connected to the gauge cluster...so be it. I connect them when I am sliding it up into position.

I also AGREE...be careful on your new gauge cluster. And actually...I bond steel plates in where they are known to break to give that are a lot of strength. When completed...you will never see the reinforcement plates I bonded in.

ALSO..make sure you pre-install your wiper switch housing before you get to far. They can be a ROYAL pain in the backside if you try to do it with it installed in the dash and then realize you have to fight with it to get it to remotely fit.

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DUB, I checked all the lines, vacuum doors (push/pull where applicable), etc. it's been a interesting process, especially when I wasn't the one that took it apart and trying to figure out how things fit together. I think I invented a few words when putting the radiator tank (big block with AC) on.

I'm stuck due to missing screws. I thought I had them all, but found that to be false when starting to put it together. I got the parking brake housing, and shift console placed and kind of held in place.
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As long as when you use your HVAC control and check for MAX A/C...and the other vacuum pods...it is wise to make sure they all work.

I assume that you did do this and ALL pods work correctly...including the right inside air pod and the one under your top hood surround in the cowl area on the right side.

I recently posted a few threads on 1969 I was working on and what I ran into.

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Originally Posted by DUB
I may be out of line...but in your photo...it looks like you are missing the defroster duct.

Before you install any of this...I would advise you test your vacuum system for your HAVC ducts....that is if you care where the air comes out.

And I personally install the gauge cluster to the shifter console BEFORE I slide it in it final place. This is due to the two nuts that hold the gauge cluster to the shifter console. If the car is an A/C car with the vacuum harness...that left nut on the gauge cluster can be a 'bear' to get to and tighten. So..if this means I do not have any wiring or oil pressure tube connected to the gauge cluster...so be it. I connect them when I am sliding it up into position.

I also AGREE...be careful on your new gauge cluster. And actually...I bond steel plates in where they are known to break to give that are a lot of strength. When completed...you will never see the reinforcement plates I bonded in.

ALSO..make sure you pre-install your wiper switch housing before you get to far. They can be a ROYAL pain in the backside if you try to do it with it installed in the dash and then realize you have to fight with it to get it to remotely fit.

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How about more detail about the reinforcement plates
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Dub I checked all the pods and lines. That plenum one works as well, thankfully since it looks like a chore to get to. I checked them from the control panel to ensure each side could pull vacuum from there.

Still need to put the nuts on the underside of the cluster. I can't get my hands in there so will have to be creative.
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Hi D,
Some folks have success reaching up with a socket and 1/4" drive extensions.
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Going to try a universal joint and extension too see if that helps.
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Dub I checked all the pods and lines. That plenum one works as well, thankfully since it looks like a chore to get to. I checked them from the control panel to ensure each side could pull vacuum from there.

Still need to put the nuts on the underside of the cluster. I can't get my hands in there so will have to be creative.
Coupling nuts or 'wing nuts' might be easier to put in there.

https://www.boltdepot.com/Coupling_n...teel_18-8.aspx
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Originally Posted by Duntov
Going to try a universal joint and extension too see if that helps.
Wrap the universal joint at least snugly with electrical tape, keeps the joint from flopping around loosely.
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Originally Posted by Duntov
Still need to put the nuts on the underside of the cluster. I can't get my hands in there so will have to be creative.
As I wrote in my previous post. I assembly the gauge cluster and the shifter console together and then I begin to slide it in place.

I then begin to get the A/C control plate to get up in place because it is laying there...and then I begin to install all wiring and such for the gauge cluster....becasue is it still slightly away from where it needs to be....and I also deal with the front fiberoptics if needed.

Using the swivel socket as shown does work...but the left side is a royal pain....at least for me it is....which is why do it in the manner I described and....for me....it goes faster and I do not have to worry about those nuts. the vacuum harness for the duct system...and fiber optic harness and any otehr wiring harnesses for components that are under the left side nut...make it a bear to install.

And I preform the SAME process on a NON-A/C car where I have the cables for the kick plate area vents.

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I am sort of in the same situation, I took my car apart 4 years ago and am beginning to do the interior. Only thing is I only have put the heater box and the steering column in. I needed the information already shared but back up a couple of steps. I'm thinking upper dash pad/speakers, defrost duct and then what's been discussed here. Would that be about correct? Also I seem to have read that you have to drop the steering column for the left side dash install, is this correct?

Sorry to hijack the thread but I was just searching and ran across this. I just need the previous steps. BTW I still have the rear window and windshield out. I'm thinking I can go ahead with the rear but hold on the windshield till the dash is all in.

Advice welcome.
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Hi Mark,
Yes, you can wait to install the windshield until the dash is completely finished.
I like to put the upper dash pad in first along with the speakers and defroster duct as you described.
Yes, the steering column does need to be 'dropped' in order to move the left side dash pad into position. The bolts at the column support need to be removed, but the bolts at the firewall plate only need to be loosened.
Be SURE to support the weight of the column so it's not on the plate at the firewall or on the rag joint.
Be cautious as you install the left side pad and center gauge cluster bezel so that you don't damage anything… there's lot's going on behind them.
Good Luck!
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Hi Mark,
Yes, you can wait to install the windshield until the dash is completely finished.
I like to put the upper dash pad in first along with the speakers and defroster duct as you described.
Yes, the steering column does need to be 'dropped' in order to move the left side dash pad into position. The bolts at the column support need to be removed, but the bolts at the firewall plate only need to be loosened.
Be SURE to support the weight of the column so it's not on the plate at the firewall or on the rag joint.
Be cautious as you install the left side pad and center gauge cluster bezel so that you don't damage anything… there's lot's going on behind them.
Good Luck!
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Another question, is it best to install the shifter console first and then put the plate in and attach the heater control, or can I put the heater control and plate in the console before I put the console in?
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Hi Mark,
(This is for a no a/c car.) (An a/c car doesn't have the kick panel vet controls)
I think it's best to get the console in first, then the install the small 'frame' that the heater/defroster controller mounts in to the console.
Hook up the Bowden cable for the controller's hot/cold function and the Bowden cables for the kick panel vent doors.
Then hook make the electrical connections for the lighter and then position the shifter plate on the console.
If it's a 4 speed install the shifter boot and then finally screws for the shifter console plate.
Be sure the heater/defroster control, the Bowden cables, and the lighter and it's light are operating properly before putting the shift plate screws in.
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