Was that a new transmission or used?
Another "woe is me" thread
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Burning Brakes
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From: Bellmore NY
Another "woe is me" thread
Well, subsequent to my last "build" thread, it looks like after about 150 miles I get to unbuild my car and probably miss another season.
Ive been chasing down a bunch of smaller issues like leaky water neck, squeaky belts, quadra jet issues [possible rebuild of a holley 6212], etc.
Otherwise the car met my expectations... until the other night.
It first happened when I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd. Crunch.
Hmm.. did I not have my foot all the way to the floor?
Upshift from 1st to 2nd. BANG!
Am I stupid?
This didn't happen on every up and downshift, but occurred several more times. Always goes into gear, but does so in a violent way. Only occurs while shifting into 2nd. All other gears are fine.
My Richmond 5 speed overdrive will have to come out.
Hoorah.
I have basically zero free time, and was lucky enough to finish putting the car together in the first place. Now I get to pull this behemoth of a transmission back out. I knew I should have just left the M20 in it!
Oh well... I missed last season in hopes of enjoying this one, but i guess thats out!
UPDATE: For anyone coming across this thread on a search of Richmond 5 speed overdrive, go to post #20. Im a dope that didn't use locktight on the shifter mount bolts.
Ive been chasing down a bunch of smaller issues like leaky water neck, squeaky belts, quadra jet issues [possible rebuild of a holley 6212], etc.
Otherwise the car met my expectations... until the other night.
It first happened when I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd. Crunch.
Hmm.. did I not have my foot all the way to the floor?
Upshift from 1st to 2nd. BANG!
Am I stupid?
This didn't happen on every up and downshift, but occurred several more times. Always goes into gear, but does so in a violent way. Only occurs while shifting into 2nd. All other gears are fine.
My Richmond 5 speed overdrive will have to come out.
Hoorah.
I have basically zero free time, and was lucky enough to finish putting the car together in the first place. Now I get to pull this behemoth of a transmission back out. I knew I should have just left the M20 in it!
Oh well... I missed last season in hopes of enjoying this one, but i guess thats out!
UPDATE: For anyone coming across this thread on a search of Richmond 5 speed overdrive, go to post #20. Im a dope that didn't use locktight on the shifter mount bolts.
Last edited by Big Block Dave; Apr 7, 2017 at 10:06 PM. Reason: Update
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I usually make a list and add things to it that need to be fixed. My list is over 15 items now. The car is basically together and is being driven (when possible) almost daily. Every week it seems something new pops up. I get very frustrated as I just put an overdrive in and can hardly get any opportunities to drive it.
Sorry about your transmission. That is a true downer. Best of luck Big Block Dave.
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Sometimes no matter how hard you try things just don't work out. I think we have all at one time or another felt your pain. Don't look back just keep looking ahead. Since the transmission is new I hope it may be under warranty. At least then it's more lost time than anything else.
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Burning Brakes
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Sometimes no matter how hard you try things just don't work out. I think we have all at one time or another felt your pain. Don't look back just keep looking ahead. Since the transmission is new I hope it may be under warranty. At least then it's more lost time than anything else.
It is still under warranty, and I do plan on letting Richmond know, however, a close friend of mine works at SK Speed, and has tapped Brian to do the surgery.
Im trying to be positive about this, but Im just tired, and just getting over the point of being p!ssed. Thanks for all of the support fellas.
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The turn-around time for Richmond to replace the defective unit should be a few days, at most. The problem is the removal since a manual C3 has a welded-in cross member.
I would HIGHLY suggest that you consider cutting that cross member out and installing one that is bolted in. Then you can remove the trans from the engine and replace it the same way. Much easier than engine removal. And, if you really want to save the season, consider having a [good] mechanic do the exchange. You should only be down for a week or two (assuming that Richmond can expedite the exchange).
I would HIGHLY suggest that you consider cutting that cross member out and installing one that is bolted in. Then you can remove the trans from the engine and replace it the same way. Much easier than engine removal. And, if you really want to save the season, consider having a [good] mechanic do the exchange. You should only be down for a week or two (assuming that Richmond can expedite the exchange).
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Burning Brakes
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From: Bellmore NY
The turn-around time for Richmond to replace the defective unit should be a few days, at most. The problem is the removal since a manual C3 has a welded-in cross member.
I would HIGHLY suggest that you consider cutting that cross member out and installing one that is bolted in. Then you can remove the trans from the engine and replace it the same way. Much easier than engine removal. And, if you really want to save the season, consider having a [good] mechanic do the exchange. You should only be down for a week or two (assuming that Richmond can expedite the exchange).
I would HIGHLY suggest that you consider cutting that cross member out and installing one that is bolted in. Then you can remove the trans from the engine and replace it the same way. Much easier than engine removal. And, if you really want to save the season, consider having a [good] mechanic do the exchange. You should only be down for a week or two (assuming that Richmond can expedite the exchange).
I cut the crossmember when I put the transmission in. However, I got the transmission underneath the car when there was no engine in it, so it was a lot easier to put it on my jack and roll it underneath the engine bay and into position. Now there is an engine in the way... so now I have to come in from the side, and based on the height/depth of this unit, it will be more like putting an automatic in a car. Im going to have to get the unit off the jack under the car and drag it out.
While I shouldn't make assumptions, I don't expect Richmond to just say "send it back and we'll give you a new one.". I expect friction, and at the minimum I am going to be paying shipping.
For me personally, I would rather spend more money at this point and know that the most competent person is going to go through the whole box to make sure its right.
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Geez Dave, sorry to hear about this. Be glad to give you a hand when I am back up in a couple of weeks. Good to hear Brian is still around. I had heard he retired and sold off his stash of parts.
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It is still under warranty, and I do plan on letting Richmond know, however, a close friend of mine works at SK Speed, and has tapped Brian to do the surgery.
Im trying to be positive about this, but Im just tired, and just getting over the point of being p!ssed. Thanks for all of the support fellas.
Im trying to be positive about this, but Im just tired, and just getting over the point of being p!ssed. Thanks for all of the support fellas.
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I feel your pain. I just installed a new aluminum flywheel and clutch in my '71. Have about 2000 miles on it and I think the throw-out bearing is starting to go. I had the engine out at the time (other stuff to do) so it was an easy job at that time. I don't need to pull the engine this time and I'm dreading laying on my back to pull my Muncie. I'm too old for that **** anymore.
I think I'm going to take it to a shop down the street and see what they would charge me to do it. If I had a lift I could have it out in 2 hours. On my back it would take 2 days.
I think I'm going to take it to a shop down the street and see what they would charge me to do it. If I had a lift I could have it out in 2 hours. On my back it would take 2 days.
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Burning Brakes
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That and the clutch engagement were worth questioning. I do know that the shifter is well adjusted. I thought I maybe had too much freeplay on the clutch, and took some out, and it still did the same thing. The car will go into reverse without dragging the clutch. Additionally, the issue is only 2nd gear, whether coming from first or 3rd.
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That and the clutch engagement were worth questioning. I do know that the shifter is well adjusted. I thought I maybe had too much freeplay on the clutch, and took some out, and it still did the same thing. The car will go into reverse without dragging the clutch. Additionally, the issue is only 2nd gear, whether coming from first or 3rd.
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Burning Brakes
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Im glad yours was something simple and relatively painless. It couldn't hurt to look at the shifter adjustment, but I don't think Im going to be that lucky.... Long brand sifter is all heim joints. Pretty much impossible for them to come out of adjustment. Was fine for the 120 miles before this happened.
Last edited by Big Block Dave; Mar 28, 2017 at 09:38 PM.