Sticker problems???
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Sticker problems???
The stickers I've been buying for my 69 seem to be printed on paper? I have the front spring stickers on and the timing sticker above the brake booster. Well I just washed the car off and low and behold the stickers are water soaked? Paper not plastic? Wth?
I bought these from a reputable vendor. Am I
wrong for assuming the stickers I buy are at least the same quality as the originals? Anyone else have this problem?
I bought these from a reputable vendor. Am I
wrong for assuming the stickers I buy are at least the same quality as the originals? Anyone else have this problem?
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Are you thinking that those 'code stickers' were made to withstand weather? They were put on parts so the factory would know which part they were selecting on the assembly line. Once the car was built, they were useless.
Only the 'elite' who have a museum or who ferry their cars around in an enclosed trailer bother with those things. That's the only way they will survive the elements.....not be out in them.
Only the 'elite' who have a museum or who ferry their cars around in an enclosed trailer bother with those things. That's the only way they will survive the elements.....not be out in them.
Last edited by 7T1vette; Apr 15, 2017 at 09:23 PM.
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Hi C69,
The original front spring part # and broadcast code tags were originally printed on green paper. The reproductions I see seem similar to the originals.
Since they were only intended to aid in identifying the part during assembly, I doubt that any thought of durability was given to them.
The Emissions Label however was intended to be a source of information for the 'typical' life of the car. Therefore it was made of plastic film. The reproductions I see are made of a plastic that seems similar to the originals and appears to be durable.
So, I'm surprised to hear of your experience with the emissions label, but not too surprised to hear about the front spring tag.
Regards,
Alan
The original front spring part # and broadcast code tags were originally printed on green paper. The reproductions I see seem similar to the originals.
Since they were only intended to aid in identifying the part during assembly, I doubt that any thought of durability was given to them.
The Emissions Label however was intended to be a source of information for the 'typical' life of the car. Therefore it was made of plastic film. The reproductions I see are made of a plastic that seems similar to the originals and appears to be durable.
So, I'm surprised to hear of your experience with the emissions label, but not too surprised to hear about the front spring tag.
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Apr 16, 2017 at 06:55 AM.
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Hi C69,
I'm pretty sure there is more than one manufacture of the emissions labels.
I don't know who's selling what though.
I guess if you're feeling lucky you could try a couple of different vendors.
Perhaps Dr. Rebuild and Jim Osborn Reproductions.
I think Jim Osborn is a producer too; so maybe try there first?
Regards,
Alan
Looking at my original it appears the black information was printed on the 'back-side' of the plastic and then a white coating was added and finally the pressure sensitive adhesive was added.
I'm pretty sure there is more than one manufacture of the emissions labels.
I don't know who's selling what though.
I guess if you're feeling lucky you could try a couple of different vendors.
Perhaps Dr. Rebuild and Jim Osborn Reproductions.
I think Jim Osborn is a producer too; so maybe try there first?
Regards,
Alan
Looking at my original it appears the black information was printed on the 'back-side' of the plastic and then a white coating was added and finally the pressure sensitive adhesive was added.
Last edited by Alan 71; Apr 16, 2017 at 12:12 PM.
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Thanks
alan. What did you use on your car? I know you gave new stickers? Has water ever got on them? I guess I'm confused as to how a reputable vendor could sell reproduction stickers that are not durable? Hasn't anyone else out there had this problem?
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Alan
I go to home and went to look at the sticker. Of course it had dried by then. Looks normal again. But I can tell you when it got wet it really looked like water had leached between the top and bottom. 1/8 inch in all around water soaked. I've bought most of my stuff from ecklers, vol Vette, paragon, corvette America, etc. not sure who I got these from but I'm highly disturbed to think thIs stuff can't get wet. Also the sticker that goes on the column of the steering wheel that talks about not damaging the spiral cable (iirc) goes on the left side of column.
Has started to come up in the center. Just seems the adhesive is very weak. I'm beside myself
Has started to come up in the center. Just seems the adhesive is very weak. I'm beside myself
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Hi C69,
I can understand how you feel.
By time you get to the 'details' it would be nice to think that at least THEY would go smoothy… but no, nothing is really straight forward or easy.
???
Regards,
Alan
I can understand how you feel.
By time you get to the 'details' it would be nice to think that at least THEY would go smoothy… but no, nothing is really straight forward or easy.
???
Regards,
Alan
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As others have said, spring and shock labels were only there to assist the assembly line in identifying the parts. They were plain paper labels, that faded or fell off after a few months of driving. Up to the mid 70's, the under hood coolant warning labels were paper too, and eventually fell off or disintegrated.
Emission labels were printed on some sort of plastic coated label material, but so are the repro's. The backing of the label is paper, and the coating is only on the top of the paper. When the labels are printed and trimmed, it leaves an exposed paper edge.
Most repro labels I've seen, are printed on 3M stock. I think 3M produces a quality product, but maybe not. The makers of repro labels, only print the labels, they don't make the stock that it's printed on. Most of them are small mom and pop operations, and are not in a position to make they're own label stock.
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You can always try spraying a water based polyurethane over the sticker. Tape off the edges leaving room to cover the entire sticker plus a little more to cover the bare paper as someone stated above. 