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So I'll partially side with the vendor and venture a guess and say 8 times out of 10 a customer will complain if those rotors were discarded without being at the 'discard' thickness.
Really? I guess I'm in the 2/10 category all the time. Rotors are not that expensive. Yeah it's an added cost but I'd rather err on the side of safety. Maybe 8/10 just don't care and want the cheapest way. Seriously, we're talking about what a $60/rotor here?
If they cut to safe tolerances...great, I chalk that up as a bonus. I kind of prepare myself budget wise ahead of time for needing rotors. On all my own cars over the years, I'd say it's about 70% of the time they flat out are beyond tolerance or are "iffy"/on the cusp after being cut and in that case I just replace them. My or my relatives/friends lives are worth more than a couple bucks.
Let's play devils advocate. The company received rotors that were used and need to be cut. Im assuming this is the rotor the customer sent, not an exchange. If it is the customers rotor and he cut it a hair under the recommended thickness, I can't fault them but they should have made a phone call stating its under the recommended thickness.
If this is an exchange rotor, a bets are off! This is poor business practice that could put someone at risk. They have no idea how hard this customer drives and we all know what could happen but God only knows how many times I've run a thin rotor and I'm sure many other that were broke as kids did it too!
From: I tend to be leery of any guy who doesn't own a chainsaw or a handgun.
Originally Posted by The13Bats
Some guy might be getting ready to send his parts to them right now but not naming the place he really doesnt Get any warning,
afterall you called the shop and they told you the rotors are good to go,
They would likely tell anyone who called the same, Knowing what i do about you i am surprised you protect the bad shop by not naming them,
I don't have any dog in this fight, but given how lawsuit-happy people are these days I don't blame DUB for not mentioning the supplier. He correctly advised his customer, but he doesn't need to also risk getting sued by that supplier over the deal. We've been advised to double check the quality on this type of service, and it's up to us to actually risk getting our hands dirty at times to make sure we got what we paid for.
Really? I guess I'm in the 2/10 category all the time. Rotors are not that expensive. Yeah it's an added cost but I'd rather err on the side of safety. Maybe 8/10 just don't care and want the cheapest way. Seriously, we're talking about what a $60/rotor here?
If they cut to safe tolerances...great, I chalk that up as a bonus. I kind of prepare myself budget wise ahead of time for needing rotors. On all my own cars over the years, I'd say it's about 70% of the time they flat out are beyond tolerance or are "iffy"/on the cusp after being cut and in that case I just replace them. My or my relatives/friends lives are worth more than a couple bucks.
Yes, A really. A garage owner friend of mine failed a cars state inspection due to rotors so thin you could see the cooling vanes. Owner sued him....
Most people aren't like us. Most people drive until there's a problem versus practicing preventative maintenance.
Unfortunately most people don't read the directions.
You cannot be mad a DUB for not listing his vendor, he has a Corvette shop for a living, chastising a vendor makes it harder for him to run his business and makes it harder to get parts for his customers.
Im not mad at dub, just like everyone here i an opinion,
Having a shop isnt a good reason not to name the name of this vendor, afterall dub likely and hopefully will not get parts from them,
Wait, he didnt, this was a nameless customer who thought dub charged too much, took his parts someplace else and then returned to dub because the parts are close to but not past the throw away point now,
So naming the shop would help not hurt,
How was it said, " a missed opportunity"
But hey, at least its a great and free promotion for dubs shop
Last edited by The13Bats; May 12, 2017 at 04:54 PM.
Im not mad at dub, just like everyone here i an opinion,
Having a shop isnt a good reason not to name the name of this vendor, afterall dub likely and hopefully will not get parts from them,
Wait, he didnt, this was a nameless customer who thought dub charged too much, took his parts someplace else and then returned to dub because the parts are close to but not past the throw away point now,
So naming the shop would help not hurt,
How was it said, " a missed opportunity"
But hey, at least its a great and free promotion for dubs shop
Might save someone else from getting ripped off...
You can tell that rotor is thin just by looking at it. That's some scary crap!
NO...I am not that good to see thousandths of an inch...my sense of feel is rather scary when I do rear wheel bearings and then check them...but not looking at rotors. and knowing exactly how thick they are.....the photos showed how I measure them and the tool shows how thick they are.
BUT..I can look the thickness of each surface where the cooling fins start and see if one side of the rotor has been turned excessively ....thus...allowing that surface not to be able to dissipate the heat as well as the other side of the rotor that is still thick. BOTH surfaces should be really even in thickness.
OK...I did not do this for any benefit OTHER THAN passing along what I had come into my shop. Naming the company is pointless because many of you would tear them a new backside and those of you who would do it know who you are. Some of you guys are relentless and are lacking the ability to have a bit of understanding and compassion. Instead ...some people choose to go for the jugular.
I OBVIOUSLY can not say if this is a common practice from this company.
I made my views heard and IF they choose to use them...that is up to them.
I was only trying to make sure you guys and glass out there DO NOT ASSUME that it is good just because 'so and so' did it.
Here are the photos of the rotors again just in case no one can see what I measured. Because for the life of me I do not know what other photos you would need to believe what I wrote.
The trailing arm before I removed the rotor and installed a new one and indexed it in.
Im not mad at dub, just like everyone here i an opinion,
Having a shop isnt a good reason not to name the name of this vendor, afterall dub likely and hopefully will not get parts from them, Wait, he didnt, this was a nameless customer who thought dub charged too much, took his parts someplace else and then returned to dub because the parts are close to but not past the throw away point now,
So naming the shop would help not hurt,
How was it said, " a missed opportunity"
But hey, at least its a great and free promotion for dubs shop
I WILL continue to do business with this company ...If my customers want to wait several weeks for the arms to be done...that is up to them. The other repairs on the trailing arms where really good.
Once again people who read more into what was written. 'Bats' You wrote:Wait, he didnt, this was a nameless customer who thought dub charged too much,..I never wrote the customer thought I charged too much...If you must know..I told my customer that there is no way for me to do the job for the price they are doing it for....SO...IN REALITY...I did not want to do the job and charge my customer MORE MONEY.
BATS...I am NOT trying to get any 'free promotion' of my shop. It was NEVER my attempt. WHY do you have to mention stuff like that... like I am trying to get more business than I already have. I thought we were good but you are back at taking stabs at me on what I do. This can go right back to the way it was IF you want to do it. It is crap like this that makes me wonder why and the F*CK I spend my time trying to pass along experiences that many of you may never get to experience.
IF you ( Bats) or anyone else feel I am disregarding the rules of conduct in any way shape or form and bring it to the attention of any Corvette Forum moderator...and they tell me that I am doing wrong....I will go ahead and let those that I am currently helping now know that we will have to conduct the advise on the repairs of their car on the phone because I will stop being on the forum.
I try to help and may help countless people but there is always someone who has to all they can to screws things up.
What is sad... The 1.215 is stamped in all the factory rotors.... how could you be in this business and not know that.
Ernie
I know these numbers even without have to look in the manual... and what blows my mind is that they wanted to argue the facts out of the service manual.
REGARDLESS if they are still BARELY above discard thickness. They were turned down BELOW the 1.230" MINIMUM THICKNESS AFTER machining.
lol....people need to lighten up, I doubt DUB is trying to promote a shop that most people dont know exists let alone would be within distance to actually use. If I need my trailing arms replaced, I certainly am not going on a 15 hr drive to get it to his shop.......
OK...I did not do this for any benefit OTHER THAN passing along what I had come into my shop. Naming the company is pointless because many of you would tear them a new backside and those of you who would do it know who you are. Some of you guys are relentless and are lacking the ability to have a bit of understanding and compassion. Instead ...some people choose to go for the jugular.
I OBVIOUSLY can not say if this is a common practice from this company.
I made my views heard and IF they choose to use them...that is up to them.
I was only trying to make sure you guys and glass out there DO NOT ASSUME that it is good just because 'so and so' did it.
Here are the photos of the rotors again just in case no one can see what I measured. Because for the life of me I do not know what other photos you would need to believe what I wrote.
The trailing arm before I removed the rotor and installed a new one and indexed it in.
DUB
Really?!
Who cares the wordding used,
You posted this feedback thread to "tear this shop a new backside" expose what you didnt like about their work,
And critique them hardcore yet are going to cop out posting said shops name to actually help people because you are afraid others will As you did and critique this shop,
You go as far as including your call to them trying to tell them how it is,
One sided,
It a bit hypocritical,
But still you got in a great plug for your shop....
I WILL continue to do business with this company ...If my customers want to wait several weeks for the arms to be done...that is up to them. The other repairs on the trailing arms where really good.
Once again people who read more into what was written. 'Bats' You wrote:Wait, he didnt, this was a nameless customer who thought dub charged too much,..I never wrote the customer thought I charged too much...If you must know..I told my customer that there is no way for me to do the job for the price they are doing it for....SO...IN REALITY...I did not want to do the job and charge my customer MORE MONEY.
BATS...I am NOT trying to get any 'free promotion' of my shop. It was NEVER my attempt. WHY do you have to mention stuff like that... like I am trying to get more business than I already have. I thought we were good but you are back at taking stabs at me on what I do. This can go right back to the way it was IF you want to do it. It is crap like this that makes me wonder why and the F*CK I spend my time trying to pass along experiences that many of you may never get to experience.
IF you ( Bats) or anyone else feel I am disregarding the rules of conduct in any way shape or form and bring it to the attention of any Corvette Forum moderator...and they tell me that I am doing wrong....I will go ahead and let those that I am currently helping now know that we will have to conduct the advise on the repairs of their car on the phone because I will stop being on the forum.
I try to help and may help countless people but there is always someone who has to all they can to screws things up.
DUB
DUB, seems as though this thread took a left turn on you. Go figure.
I read it, saved it for future reference (and for the tool name) Thanks for the tips.
Let's play devils advocate. The company received rotors that were used and need to be cut. Im assuming this is the rotor the customer sent, not an exchange. If it is the customers rotor and he cut it a hair under the recommended thickness, I can't fault them but they should have made a phone call stating its under the recommended thickness.
If this is an exchange rotor, a bets are off! This is poor business practice that could put someone at risk. They have no idea how hard this customer drives and we all know what could happen but God only knows how many times I've run a thin rotor and I'm sure many other that were broke as kids did it too!
Obviously you must have missed what I wrote. Here is is again from the initial post.
The sad thing about this is that the rotors that were sent with the trailing arms where at 1.247" and 1.245" respectively. If I still had them at the shop I could have saved them and not needed to cut them down as badly as they had. I assumed they knew what they were doing... a big error on my account for assuming that.
They machined these rotors way too much because a new rotor is 1.250". So the rotors that were send to them were darn near brand new.
The only 'hair' that they did was machine them to the point that they were literally a 'hair' on each side above from throwing them away (which I did anyway)..and IF these rotors were used and new pads go in and get broken in and used...the rotors would be right at discard thickness.
this thread is worthless until dub names names...BEWARE, beware of who?
Might save someone else from getting ripped off... 
