Cooling issue
01-17-2019, 04:06 PM
#21
As stated by a couple of other members in this thread....I cannot stress the importance of correct timing on overall engine performance which includes cooling. I would hope your mechanic would start here. The reason you SHOULD start here is because for one thing it is free/cheap.....the other is once it is right, then you can go determine if chasing fans and radiators will be beneficial. A good mechanic would go here first and if your mechanic scoffs at it, find another. Also, if the mechanics claims to be able to set timing by ear, lose his/her number.
After timing is set, have them perform the idle screw adjustment just for the hell of it. The two go hand in hand.
Do you have any pics of the engine compartment?
Good luck to you and post your results!
Jebby
After timing is set, have them perform the idle screw adjustment just for the hell of it. The two go hand in hand.
Do you have any pics of the engine compartment?
Good luck to you and post your results!
Jebby
01-17-2019, 04:50 PM
#22
Race Director
After you check the timing and other things mentioned in this thread, I would check to see if you could find documentation on the water pump, fans and the radiator itself.
Post what you can find and we can go from there.
Do you know the age, material or anything else regarding the radiator?
Post what you can find and we can go from there.
Do you know the age, material or anything else regarding the radiator?
01-17-2019, 06:19 PM
#23
Drifting
you need a shroud so you pull air thru entire radiator and enough cfm to cool 500hp.... I have a 383 with 525 hp and mine never goes over 190* , in 110* heat in traffic with A/C on
01-17-2019, 08:48 PM
#24
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first you need to install the core support seals and radiator seals, most of the air while driving is bypassing the radiator and passing over the top of the core support and around the radiator. While sitting the air is circulating from the engine bay back over the top of the radiator and back through the radiator (hot air).
You need the seals,
Neal
You need the seals,
Neal
01-17-2019, 08:58 PM
#25
Shroud
If the fans are mounted to the rad and you have open areas on the rad I had the same issue. Stock system requires ALL foam to seal air leaks in place.
I now run a dewitts aluminum rad but the ticket was their shroud that includes 2 fans. No dead areas as it draws over the entire rad.
I now run a dewitts aluminum rad but the ticket was their shroud that includes 2 fans. No dead areas as it draws over the entire rad.
01-17-2019, 09:05 PM
#26
Radiator
After you check the timing and other things mentioned in this thread, I would check to see if you could find documentation on the water pump, fans and the radiator itself.
Post what you can find and we can go from there.
Do you know the age, material or anything else regarding the radiator?
Post what you can find and we can go from there.
Do you know the age, material or anything else regarding the radiator?
01-17-2019, 09:09 PM
#27
01-17-2019, 09:12 PM
#28
Seals
first you need to install the core support seals and radiator seals, most of the air while driving is bypassing the radiator and passing over the top of the core support and around the radiator. While sitting the air is circulating from the engine bay back over the top of the radiator and back through the radiator (hot air).
You need the seals,
Neal
You need the seals,
Neal
01-17-2019, 09:17 PM
#29
"Positive that is the right water pump"? That's b.s. Tell him to verify that. If it's a regular rotation water pump and he's spinning in reverse rotation with that serpentine setup, then you're going to have the exact same problems you're describing.
Radiator is new along with fans. I’ve talked with my mechanics and very strongly reminded them this is not the typical Chevy they work on. This is American muscle and has special needs. I sent them comments from the forum to and I think we are on the same page. We’re looking for a shroud for the fans. Mechanic assured me he is positive that is the right water pump. I’ll force the issues if I have to. I’ve managed $10million projects so I’m not threatened by a couple of guys spending my money. Any rate I could not have done this without all you guys on this forum so many thanks.
Radiator is new along with fans. I’ve talked with my mechanics and very strongly reminded them this is not the typical Chevy they work on. This is American muscle and has special needs. I sent them comments from the forum to and I think we are on the same page. We’re looking for a shroud for the fans. Mechanic assured me he is positive that is the right water pump. I’ll force the issues if I have to. I’ve managed $10million projects so I’m not threatened by a couple of guys spending my money. Any rate I could not have done this without all you guys on this forum so many thanks.
01-17-2019, 09:23 PM
#30
A statement below stood out.... If you are going to some mechanic that only works on the newer computer controlled systems, then they might have a tough ascertaining the issues with your older SBC system. This is not terribly difficult to troubleshoot, so if these guys cannot figure it out promptly, then you may wish to take your car elsewhere.
Radiator is new along with fans. I’ve talked with my mechanics and very strongly reminded them this is not the typical Chevy they work on. This is American muscle and has special needs. I sent them comments from the forum to and I think we are on the same page. We’re looking for a shroud for the fans. Mechanic assured me he is positive that is the right water pump. I’ll force the issues if I have to. I’ve managed $10million projects so I’m not threatened by a couple of guys spending my money. Any rate I could not have done this without all you guys on this forum so many thanks.
Radiator is new along with fans. I’ve talked with my mechanics and very strongly reminded them this is not the typical Chevy they work on. This is American muscle and has special needs. I sent them comments from the forum to and I think we are on the same page. We’re looking for a shroud for the fans. Mechanic assured me he is positive that is the right water pump. I’ll force the issues if I have to. I’ve managed $10million projects so I’m not threatened by a couple of guys spending my money. Any rate I could not have done this without all you guys on this forum so many thanks.
01-18-2019, 07:09 AM
#31
Safety Car
A statement below stood out.... If you are going to some mechanic that only works on the newer computer controlled systems, then they might have a tough ascertaining the issues with your older SBC system. This is not terribly difficult to troubleshoot, so if these guys cannot figure it out promptly, then you may wish to take your car elsewhere.
I also see that her location is Florida as well. I took my thermostat out years ago for better flow, not really needed here in Florida, it's plenty hot here.
Last edited by Doug1; 01-18-2019 at 07:10 AM.
01-18-2019, 09:35 AM
#32
Le Mans Master
https://www.corvettecentral.com/search?CurrentSearchCategoryId=&q=radiat or+seal&Years=1978
You can get generic brand foam from Home Depot and make seals also.
Last edited by Street Rat; 01-18-2019 at 09:39 AM.
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01-18-2019, 10:09 AM
#33
Here are the seal kits that were offered for the '78...
https://www.corvettecentral.com/search?CurrentSearchCategoryId=&q=radiat or+seal&Years=1978
You can get generic brand foam from Home Depot and make seals also.
https://www.corvettecentral.com/search?CurrentSearchCategoryId=&q=radiat or+seal&Years=1978
You can get generic brand foam from Home Depot and make seals also.
That's what I have with my Summit Radiator and Mark 8 Fan. If nothing else just for you to check it is making a difference. You can always exchange them later if it matters to you.
Last edited by carriljc; 01-18-2019 at 10:21 AM.
01-18-2019, 10:15 AM
#34
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https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...itioning-78-78
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ning-76l-76-78
Depending on your cars options,
The gap over the radiator and between the hood has to be sealed so air will be forced through the radiator and condenser. Air will take the path of least resistance, around the radiator. Also there are gaps on the sides of the radiator at the core support that need to be sealed, the idea is to make all the air pass through the radiator.
This may not cure all your cooling issues but it is the first item that needs to be fixed, wont know until this is taken care of.
Neal
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ning-76l-76-78
Depending on your cars options,
The gap over the radiator and between the hood has to be sealed so air will be forced through the radiator and condenser. Air will take the path of least resistance, around the radiator. Also there are gaps on the sides of the radiator at the core support that need to be sealed, the idea is to make all the air pass through the radiator.
This may not cure all your cooling issues but it is the first item that needs to be fixed, wont know until this is taken care of.
Neal
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01-18-2019, 10:24 AM
#35
Last edited by carriljc; 01-20-2019 at 03:55 PM.
01-18-2019, 04:19 PM
#36
Safety Car
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...itioning-78-78
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ning-76l-76-78
Depending on your cars options,
The gap over the radiator and between the hood has to be sealed so air will be forced through the radiator and condenser. Air will take the path of least resistance, around the radiator. Also there are gaps on the sides of the radiator at the core support that need to be sealed, the idea is to make all the air pass through the radiator.
Great looking engine btw penelope.
This may not cure all your cooling issues but it is the first item that needs to be fixed, wont know until this is taken care of.
Neal
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ning-76l-76-78
Depending on your cars options,
The gap over the radiator and between the hood has to be sealed so air will be forced through the radiator and condenser. Air will take the path of least resistance, around the radiator. Also there are gaps on the sides of the radiator at the core support that need to be sealed, the idea is to make all the air pass through the radiator.
Great looking engine btw penelope.
This may not cure all your cooling issues but it is the first item that needs to be fixed, wont know until this is taken care of.
Neal
This is a good thread.
Great looking engine btw Penelope.
Last edited by Doug1; 01-18-2019 at 04:24 PM.
01-20-2019, 09:45 AM
#37
Setup?
Im trying to gather as much info as I can. What setup are you using for shroud/fans? Recommendations? I ordered an aluminum shroud but I’m worried if my fans have enough cfm . Thanks
01-20-2019, 09:51 AM
#38
Seals
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...itioning-78-78
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ning-76l-76-78
Depending on your cars options,
The gap over the radiator and between the hood has to be sealed so air will be forced through the radiator and condenser. Air will take the path of least resistance, around the radiator. Also there are gaps on the sides of the radiator at the core support that need to be sealed, the idea is to make all the air pass through the radiator.
This may not cure all your cooling issues but it is the first item that needs to be fixed, wont know until this is taken care of.
Neal
https://willcoxcorvette.com/corvette...ning-76l-76-78
Depending on your cars options,
The gap over the radiator and between the hood has to be sealed so air will be forced through the radiator and condenser. Air will take the path of least resistance, around the radiator. Also there are gaps on the sides of the radiator at the core support that need to be sealed, the idea is to make all the air pass through the radiator.
This may not cure all your cooling issues but it is the first item that needs to be fixed, wont know until this is taken care of.
Neal
01-20-2019, 10:05 AM
#39
Rad?
If the fans are mounted to the rad and you have open areas on the rad I had the same issue. Stock system requires ALL foam to seal air leaks in place.
I now run a dewitts aluminum rad but the ticket was their shroud that includes 2 fans. No dead areas as it draws over the entire rad.
I now run a dewitts aluminum rad but the ticket was their shroud that includes 2 fans. No dead areas as it draws over the entire rad.
01-20-2019, 10:12 AM
#40
Safety Car
Well Penelope you've had a lot of ideas thrown at you. Get the shroud and existing fans installed and see what happens. That's my advice.
I don't have a shroud for my fans, but I also don't have any of my ac parts, the condensor sits in front of radiator and hinders air flow. Since I don't have that, my car does ok with temp. Since you have ac, the shroud is gonna get you that air flow that is probably lacking.
I don't have a shroud for my fans, but I also don't have any of my ac parts, the condensor sits in front of radiator and hinders air flow. Since I don't have that, my car does ok with temp. Since you have ac, the shroud is gonna get you that air flow that is probably lacking.
Last edited by Doug1; 01-20-2019 at 10:16 AM.