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Old Dec 19, 2017 | 10:10 AM
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Greetz Gents,

Where are the fusible links located on an early C3 corvette?

IF you were to add an extra one or two... where would you place them?

MTIA !

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Old Dec 19, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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Hi D,
The fusible links are at the horn relay, the wiper motor, and the starter solenoid.
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Horn Relay:


Starter Solenoid:


Wiper Motor:

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Ummmmmm...

WOW !!!!!!!

THANKS!!!!!!

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Fusible links are placed with specific purpose and are designed with prevention of wiring fires, primarily.

Fusible links are placed in the system near [or at] usually reliable components that draw significant amounts of current. So, by design, it should be RARE that a fusible link is actually destroyed. However, these components...though reliable by design...may fail so that there is a dead-short created in the electrical system. Thus, the need for a fusible link--a device that generally acts as simple wiring to pass current, but which destroys itself when a dead short occurs.

The design of the fusible link is that its wire is 2 awg sizes smaller than the wiring to which it is attached. This means that when a dead-short occurs, the [smaller] fusible link wire will 'fry' instead of the regular wiring to which it is attached. Further, the fusible link wire is sheathed in a non-flammable material (so that IT cannot catch fire) and the terminal ends are inert so that they cannot catch fire nor become hot when the fusible link melts.

Fusible links are NOT to be placed where fuses or circuit breakers are needed. They should be placed where it is unlikely that there will ever be a need for them to fail.

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Thanks !!!

mine are looking less than jolly, tho’
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I've always seen fusible links used in a car to protect some of the main wire runs, not components. For example, one is used to protect the 10 gauge wire that comes off the starter solenoid and 2 more are used to protect the wires for the ammeter. They are placed at or close to the take-off point of the smaller size wire to protect the smaller wire. I'm pretty sure the feed off the solenoid and the 2 ammeter fusible links are the 3 pictures Alan posted.

That red wire appears to be the normal wire, not the fusible link. And yes, it appears to have been shorted to the point it's insulation started to melt. Quite possibly, there was a short that melted the fusible link protecting the wire. The previous owner being rather clueless about how to fix the issue, jumped or shorted the fusible link and tried it again which started melting the main wire since it was no longer protected.

It appears you also have a wire with insulation damage in the bottom left of the picture.

There really shouldn't be a need to add any more fusible links. All the main wiring is 10 gauge so the fusible link near the solenoid protects it all.

At this point, you either need to change the harness, or pull it and take it all apart and replace any of the heat damaged wires. For small insulation damage, I would recommend using dual-wall heat shrink tubing. This is the only type that actually seals.

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Old Dec 19, 2017 | 06:17 PM
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Actually...a fusible link needs to be 4 gauge sizes smaller than the wire you are attaching it to.....as a rule of thumb. I do know that of you look at a GM wiring diagram...there is a place where this '4 gauge smaller' philosophy is different.

The length is also important. I really never go more than 6 inches long with the fusible link.

https://www.autozone.com/repairguide...00c15280217ea7

http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/fusible-link.shtml

http://knowhow.napaonline.com/fusibl...epair-one-car/

I AGREE 100% with 7T1vette and lionelhutz
. A fusible link protects the WIRE and not so much the component. A fuse and circuit breaker does basically the same thing. Mainly becasue the philosophy is you want to protect your wiring can not so much the part. Because repairing a melted down wiring harness is much worse that replacing many electrical parts. And wiring harness going through a 'melt down ' scenario...can cause the car to go up in flames.

Not knowing what you plan on doing. I know I use a special heat shrink tube that might be quite similar to what loinelhutz mentioned. I use the 4:1 shrink ratio and it does have a sealant inside it so when it is used it seals off the connection.

https://www.waytekwire.com/products/...rink-Ratio=4-1

If you have a wiring diagram...you do have several fusible links.

The one in the photo Alan posted that is by your wiper motor is for one of your AMP gauge wires

The fusible link at your starter is for the wire that supplies power OVER to your horn relay.

Then you do have other fusible links that are attached to the wires that are also secured to the buss bar on your horn relay to protect the wiring gong to the fuse panel and ignition switch.

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DUB...

You are correct. My [faulty] memory recalled that AWG sizes were only even-numbered (so that a numerical difference of "2" would only be one AWG size different).

Alas, my memory has failed yet again (more so with advancing age). So a fusible link should be numerically AND size-wise 4 smaller than the wiring to which it is attached.


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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
DUB...

You are correct. My [faulty] memory recalled that AWG sizes were only even-numbered (so that a numerical difference of "2" would only be one AWG size different).

Alas, my memory has failed yet again (more so with advancing age). So a fusible link should be numerically AND size-wise 4 smaller than the wiring to which it is attached.


HECK...I feel if I do not screw up or forget something each and every day....something is wrong and I just might still be sleeping and in a dream.

ALL IS GOOD...because it happens to the best of us.

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Below is where the fusible links were located on my April 1968 vehicle:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...locations.html


Originally Posted by DorianC3
Greetz Gents,

Where are the fusible links located on an early C3 corvette?

IF you were to add an extra one or two... where would you place them?

MTIA !

DC3

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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 03:59 AM
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Tons and tons of great information here. Thanks gents !!!

I decided to rebuild the harness myself. The connectors all look in reasonable condition. The headlight harness seems intact and not abused.

There needs to be four fusible links:
1 at the starter solenoid (14 AWG brown = 80 Amp?)
1 at the horn relay (16 AWG Black = 60 Amp?)
2 at each end of the ammeter wire (20 AWG orange = 40 Amp)

Can anyone tell me what the respective amp limit is on each of these links is correct ?
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 06:11 AM
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it's good that you are taking on this task of rebuilding your wiring harness, but I wonder that buying a new wiring harness would be a better route??? I know they aren't giving them away, but on my 76 I went all the way and replaced all the harnesses under the hood, mainly because of the heat that is produced there and the brittleness of the wires. JMO Good luck with your progress.
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 08:57 AM
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Yes, I hear ya. But I live in Belgium. So there’s an extra layer of expense that I have to consider. I have access to quality wires
by the yard. Likely I’ll do a full replacement one day but I’m the rolling restoration type. I need to be driving what I restore.
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Hi D,

"Can anyone tell me what the respective amp limit is on each of these links is correct ?"

I'm not sure what you're asking.... or IF I can answer.
I believe the wiring diagram will list the wire 'sizes'.
Is that what you're trying to determine?

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It has the amp ratings of the fusible links? I did not see that.
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I suppose what I am asking is what amp rating are these fusible links respectively expected to melt at?
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I've never seen a fusible link with an amp rating like you see on a fuse or breaker.

It's simply sized to fail first before the wire it's protecting melts it's insulation.
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I've never seen a fusible link with an amp rating like you see on a fuse or breaker.

It's simply sized to fail first before the wire it's protecting melts it's insulation.
100%

The main thing is to make sure you put the fusible link back where it was located...which 99% of the time....the fusible link is right near where it is being attached to a power source.

That missing 1% is the one for your ammeter where is is by your wiper motor where it is hanging out of the harness and NOT....repeat NOT WRAPPED up with electrical tape in a the harness to make it look pretty.

And if my memory serves me correctly.... there is a fusible link coming out of the bulkhead connector on some year models.

You DO want your fusible links exposed.

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fill in more on your heading so we know more about you, like address etc. I coming to Belgium next March, doing a river cruise with Viking, any small items you need brought over?? NOT like a motor or anything!
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