Replacement carb for 1979 L48
01-12-2018, 11:51 PM
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There is rebuilt and then there is REBUILT. A major difference.
One company may consider "rebuilt" as cleaning it and throwing a new gasket/seal kit in it.
A good rebuild service will also measure for warp/leakages, validate it functions as should/make adjustments as needed, tune to your specific engine specs, etc. Probably 3-4 hours of billable work.
If someone offers a "rebuilt" carb for $100 + exchange then that means they spent about 20-30 minutes on it.
Sending a carb to LARS or anyone that is intimately knowledgeable of the operation and gotchas is money well spent. (disclosure: I do not know LARS as I do my own work but lots of positive threads here about his work)
One company may consider "rebuilt" as cleaning it and throwing a new gasket/seal kit in it.
A good rebuild service will also measure for warp/leakages, validate it functions as should/make adjustments as needed, tune to your specific engine specs, etc. Probably 3-4 hours of billable work.
If someone offers a "rebuilt" carb for $100 + exchange then that means they spent about 20-30 minutes on it.
Sending a carb to LARS or anyone that is intimately knowledgeable of the operation and gotchas is money well spent. (disclosure: I do not know LARS as I do my own work but lots of positive threads here about his work)
Why not just send either carb to Lars?
01-13-2018, 08:53 AM
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If the carb is original to the car and has not been rebuilt by some "shop", the carb is likely in its original configuration. That being the case, rebuilding it YOURSELF with a good quality rebuild kit is very doable.
It the carb has been sent to a rebuild shop, you have no idea of what parts got used to rebuild it. These shops don't usually just rebuild YOUR carb; they replace your carb with a rebuilt unit of [approximately] the same configuration. A correctly rebuilt carb is what you want.
If the carb has been altered, sending it to Lars is a good idea. He knows what parts are correct for your carb and can refurbish it to correct configuration. YOU cannot do that. Hence, my alternative recommendations...
It the carb has been sent to a rebuild shop, you have no idea of what parts got used to rebuild it. These shops don't usually just rebuild YOUR carb; they replace your carb with a rebuilt unit of [approximately] the same configuration. A correctly rebuilt carb is what you want.
If the carb has been altered, sending it to Lars is a good idea. He knows what parts are correct for your carb and can refurbish it to correct configuration. YOU cannot do that. Hence, my alternative recommendations...
01-13-2018, 12:36 PM
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If the carb is original to the car and has not been rebuilt by some "shop", the carb is likely in its original configuration. That being the case, rebuilding it YOURSELF with a good quality rebuild kit is very doable.
It the carb has been sent to a rebuild shop, you have no idea of what parts got used to rebuild it. These shops don't usually just rebuild YOUR carb; they replace your carb with a rebuilt unit of [approximately] the same configuration. A correctly rebuilt carb is what you want.
If the carb has been altered, sending it to Lars is a good idea. He knows what parts are correct for your carb and can refurbish it to correct configuration. YOU cannot do that. Hence, my alternative recommendations...
It the carb has been sent to a rebuild shop, you have no idea of what parts got used to rebuild it. These shops don't usually just rebuild YOUR carb; they replace your carb with a rebuilt unit of [approximately] the same configuration. A correctly rebuilt carb is what you want.
If the carb has been altered, sending it to Lars is a good idea. He knows what parts are correct for your carb and can refurbish it to correct configuration. YOU cannot do that. Hence, my alternative recommendations...
If it were me, I'd send it to Lars regardless.
01-13-2018, 01:05 PM
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01-13-2018, 01:07 PM
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02-09-2018, 03:54 PM
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Update on Phil's carb:
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
- Very loose secondary spring windup. This would have caused a horrible tip-in stumble going into the secondaries
- Very high fast idle - fast idle set to 1550 rpm
- Accel pump rod installed in wrong hole - lean accel pump shot that would have caused a stumble
- Lean jetted for application
- Accel pump diaphragm collapsed - inoperative
- Extreme low float level - extreme lean condition
- Low APT setting - lean
- Choke shaft seals broken causing dirt ingestion into carb
- Idle mixture screws fully backed out beyond operating range in an attempt to fix the lean conditions caused by the above issues
- Secondary airvalves jamming and binding against airhorn casting
- Significant sooting in throttle bores indicating engine timing issues
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
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02-09-2018, 05:56 PM
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02-09-2018, 07:06 PM
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No, they made Lars in Norway.
02-09-2018, 08:48 PM
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Phil's carb after rebuild by Lars.
Update on Phil's carb:
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
- Very loose secondary spring windup. This would have caused a horrible tip-in stumble going into the secondaries
- Very high fast idle - fast idle set to 1550 rpm
- Accel pump rod installed in wrong hole - lean accel pump shot that would have caused a stumble
- Lean jetted for application
- Accel pump diaphragm collapsed - inoperative
- Extreme low float level - extreme lean condition
- Low APT setting - lean
- Choke shaft seals broken causing dirt ingestion into carb
- Idle mixture screws fully backed out beyond operating range in an attempt to fix the lean conditions caused by the above issues
- Secondary airvalves jamming and binding against airhorn casting
- Significant sooting in throttle bores indicating engine timing issues
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
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02-09-2018, 09:16 PM
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Update on Phil's carb:
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
- Very loose secondary spring windup. This would have caused a horrible tip-in stumble going into the secondaries
- Very high fast idle - fast idle set to 1550 rpm
- Accel pump rod installed in wrong hole - lean accel pump shot that would have caused a stumble
- Lean jetted for application
- Accel pump diaphragm collapsed - inoperative
- Extreme low float level - extreme lean condition
- Low APT setting - lean
- Choke shaft seals broken causing dirt ingestion into carb
- Idle mixture screws fully backed out beyond operating range in an attempt to fix the lean conditions caused by the above issues
- Secondary airvalves jamming and binding against airhorn casting
- Significant sooting in throttle bores indicating engine timing issues
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
02-09-2018, 09:59 PM
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I have a quadrajet that fit my 76, rebuilt from Holly, ran for about 300 miles,taken off when my carb was sent back from being restored. PM me if you are interested. I am NOT saying it is the correct carb for your, since there is age difference and carbs change from year to year and even sometimes changed during a year run. I can send pictures if interested, just Pm me your phone number.
You can not beat the way Lars rebuilds the carbs!!!!!IMO
You can not beat the way Lars rebuilds the carbs!!!!!IMO
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02-10-2018, 07:03 AM
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Update on Phil's carb:
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
Phil ended up sending the carb out to me. The carb had the following issues:
- Very loose secondary spring windup. This would have caused a horrible tip-in stumble going into the secondaries
- Very high fast idle - fast idle set to 1550 rpm
- Accel pump rod installed in wrong hole - lean accel pump shot that would have caused a stumble
- Lean jetted for application
- Accel pump diaphragm collapsed - inoperative
- Extreme low float level - extreme lean condition
- Low APT setting - lean
- Choke shaft seals broken causing dirt ingestion into carb
- Idle mixture screws fully backed out beyond operating range in an attempt to fix the lean conditions caused by the above issues
- Secondary airvalves jamming and binding against airhorn casting
- Significant sooting in throttle bores indicating engine timing issues
After a complete teardown, the carb was run through the hot tank for cleanup. These dirty, original, unmolested carbs are always the best carbs for rebuild, and the carb cleaned up so nicely it almost looked new.
I did a slight re-jet of the carb to better match his application, and then corrected all the setup issues with a nice performance calibration. The carb really ran well on the test engine, with all air/fuel numbers hitting right on the desired specs.
Phil reports that he simply installed the carb on his engine and that it fired and ran immediately, coming down off cold fast idle as the engine warmed up and running perfectly. He's now verifying timing and tuning, and has a nice running Vette - nice job on the install and setup, Phil!
Lars
10-10-2020, 08:05 AM
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Carb 1978 L48 tuning
That Holley is easier to modify as compared to the Quadrajet but if you like to just drive a well running car the Quadrajet works best. I do run Holleys on other cars but the Quadrajet is the best carb for "set it up and forget about it" closed hood drivers. They work great when clean and adjusted right. California emissions calibration may be a bit too lean but nothing that could not be fixed when it is apart.
Send it to Lars is my advice. I carried mine to him years ago and it still works great.
Send it to Lars is my advice. I carried mine to him years ago and it still works great.
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10-10-2020, 08:25 AM
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2 year old thread but I will throw my opinion in anyway. There are a ton of variables but generally speaking, for a weekend driver, my experience is that you can count on a carb to stay in good condition for about 5-8 years before it needs to be looked at again. Daily driver is more like 4-5 years. YMMV.
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10-19-2020, 07:14 PM
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I sent the Quadra jet carb from my 1979 Corvette to Lars for rebuild. I was absolutely satisfied by his work. He gave me some helpful advice. We bolted it on following his instructions and up she fired. He has a test engine on which he tests every carb to ensure It is working correctly. I give him two thumbs up. I was directed to him by members of the forum.
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