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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 02:11 PM
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I have 77 that I just put a new engine in. im just about to 500 miles on it, the car was running great until this afternoon. This morning, I filled it up with medium grade ethanol free gas. I drove it about 10 miles and parked it for about twenty minutes. When I started th car back up the throttle got weird, when I give it gas the rpms drop and it seems to bog down or lose power, I drove it for about 5 minutes and pulled over, gave it a little rev and it bogged down and died and now I can’t get it to fire back up. It also has a throttle body instead of a carburetor. Any ideas?
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I have 77 that I just put a new engine in. im just about to 500 miles on it, the car was running great until this afternoon. This morning, I filled it up with medium grade ethanol free gas. I drove it about 10 miles and parked it for about twenty minutes. When I started th car back up the throttle got weird, when I give it gas the rpms drop and it seems to bog down or lose power, I drove it for about 5 minutes and pulled over, gave it a little rev and it bogged down and died and now I can’t get it to fire back up. It also has a throttle body instead of a carburetor. Any ideas?
fuel pump?
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 02:57 PM
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FUEL bad??? fuel filter stopped up, have catalytic converter on it? they stop up, just like my caprice did 30 years ago.
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 03:18 PM
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FUEL bad??? fuel filter stopped up, have catalytic converter on it? they stop up, just like my caprice did 30 years ago.
I agree

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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 03:53 PM
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What engine do you have? Anything with 9.5:1 or higher compression will likely not run worth a "hoot" unless you put premium fuel in it.
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 04:42 PM
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Can you hear the fuel pump when you power up for start? IF you look down the throttle body when you crank is it spraying fuel? Ignition?
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:56 PM
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What engine do you have? Anything with 9.5:1 or higher compression will likely not run worth a "hoot" unless you put premium fuel in it.
I’ve been putting the same medium grade ethanol free in it for the last 500 miles
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Old Feb 4, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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I've actually put fuel labeled as "premium" in my car and had it buck/jump/miss...because that fuel was actually regular. The station just put regular in everything and sold it as mid & premium fuel. He was betting on the ECUs in today's cars "covering" his theft. Used a few gallons and put 'real' premium in it and the problem went away.

I couldn't prove it, but I chewed his **** out, anyway. No one in my car club will ever buy fuel there again.
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Old Feb 4, 2018 | 09:22 AM
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vacuum leak, timing chain jump, bad vacuum advance or distributer mechanical advance seized. I've had same symptoms with all these causes over the years as well as the ones mentioned above. Any mechanical noise before all this happened that you remember?

Start with easy to hardest ( Check all your fuses, fuel supply [pump, filter, vacuum lines], then spark and timing) finally your ecu if your year has some sort of computer. .

When you say new engine, is it a crate or a rebuild?

Good luck, keep us updated
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W/Tim check your fuel pressure, most problems are something simple
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Originally Posted by Rescue Rogers
vacuum leak, timing chain jump, bad vacuum advance or distributer mechanical advance seized. I've had same symptoms with all these causes over the years as well as the ones mentioned above. Any mechanical noise before all this happened that you remember?

Start with easy to hardest ( Check all your fuses, fuel supply [pump, filter, vacuum lines], then spark and timing) finally your ecu if your year has some sort of computer. .

When you say new engine, is it a crate or a rebuild?

Good luck, keep us updated
it was a crate I got from Jegs 350/290
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Hopefully its something easy that just isnt right and you can fix it yourself. I hate having to deal with companies over the phone.. Keep us informed, hopefully its an easy fuel system issue
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So I let the car sit for a few hours and went back to it, it started right up and ran perfect.... for about 30 minutes, then i realized the rpm’s were starting to hang up and jump up so i drove it home. I took the air filter off to look inside the throttle body as a gave it a few revs, it kind of seems like one of the (maybe the two) back barrels of the throttle body closest to cab weren’t spraying as much fuel as the the front barrels. I don’t know if that’s normal or not, but I’d rev it and I’d get an occasional back fire as well. I put in some sea foam into the gas tank, maybe that will help. I bet I could go drive it right now and it would drive smooth for about 20 minutes and then it will start doing its funky thing. Maybe the correct term I’m looking for is the engine is stumbling??

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Originally Posted by DavidNHarris88
So I let the car sit for a few hours and went back to it, it started right up and ran perfect.... for about 30 minutes, then i realized the rpm’s were starting to hang up and jump up so i drove it home. I took the air filter off to look inside the throttle body as a gave it a few revs, it kind of seems like one of the (maybe the two) back barrels of the throttle body closest to cab weren’t spraying as much fuel as the the front barrels. I don’t know if that’s normal or not, but I’d rev it and I’d get an occasional back fire as well. I put in some sea foam into the gas tank, maybe that will help. I bet I could go drive it right now and it would drive smooth for about 20 minutes and then it will start doing its funky thing. Maybe the correct term I’m looking for is the engine is stumbling??
if you know what an ignition control module is, have it tested.
sounds like heat in distributor is making it bad.
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Since its a new engine. Was the throttle body drained and cleaned since its beeen sitting. It could have junk in the filters or floating around internally that clogs it up when its been running a while. Either that or the fuel pump is failing. I got a jeep running that sat for about 6 years. It ran great at first but the pump started to slowly fail as the week went by. I would remove the throttle body and get it cleaned or rebuilt, replace the filter and see what your fuel pressure is
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Today I plugged my little digital monitor into my throttle body (tells me engine temp, rpms, and a few other things) and I noticed when I rev the engine, the little computer was saying I hit 8,000 rpms, which can’t be true, it sounded more like 3,000. I wonder if a bad tach reading could be throwing off the air fuel ratio and making it run badly? Just an idea, any info?
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I'd suggest a couple of things--

1-- Ignition Module
2 -- Spark plug wires leaking (or to close to)
and confusing the computer that's controlling the A/F.
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So today I installed a new coil, new ignition control module, and topped it off with fresh premium gas from a different gas station than what I used right before it started happening. It seems to be running better than ever, only time will tell tho. But for now it seems like one of those three things did the trick
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