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From: Aarhus, Denmark
I don't have an iPhone (or ANY smartphone for that matter), nor do I own any Ford products. No interest in either.
As for those specs sent to Chinese factories? You can give those plants all the specs you want, but it all comes down to the workers making the products, and quality control
You get what you pay for. Cheap labor = Poor quality. NO quality control = Poor quality.
As for those specs sent to Chinese factories? You can give those plants all the specs you want, but it all comes down to the workers making the products, and quality control
You get what you pay for. Cheap labor = Poor quality. NO quality control = Poor quality.
That is why, if you are a manufactor, and if you decide to buy in China, and you want to sell quality products, then you need to have a quality dep. "working 24/7" with the supplier, and checking parts, all the time, when it comes from China.
If you don't do that, then the quality will be low/bad.
Safety Car
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From: Aarhus, Denmark
Someone I know is high up in a bearing company. According to him it's like Rescue Rogers says, you hold the Chinese factories accountable and pay for high consistency and quality and you will get it. If you only manage them to a price and time they will take every shortcut they can dream up to maximize their profits.
The client has to take the initiative to manage the suppliers, can't just assume the low bid will be as good as the high bid. True here in the states as well.
The client has to take the initiative to manage the suppliers, can't just assume the low bid will be as good as the high bid. True here in the states as well.
That is why I don't like to do business with them.
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From: Jeffersonville Indiana 812-288-7103
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This is the exact reason we don't send anything we make to China manufacturers. We can have our tach boards made over there for 14.00 cheaper a board...as well as the low fuel warning modules, the seat belt warning modules and all the other electronic items we make... I refuse to do it. I'll make them here or I won't make them at all.
We were thinking (and what a brain fart that was) about sending our PCB for the center cluster for the 1980-1982 cars there and while we supplied them with the Gerber files the bone heads still could not send us a good sample... Again another part that would be 15.00 cheaper to make... I'd rather make them here in the states, have control of them and know I've got a good product.
Willcox
We were thinking (and what a brain fart that was) about sending our PCB for the center cluster for the 1980-1982 cars there and while we supplied them with the Gerber files the bone heads still could not send us a good sample... Again another part that would be 15.00 cheaper to make... I'd rather make them here in the states, have control of them and know I've got a good product.
Willcox
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From: Indianapolis IN
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This is the exact reason we don't send anything we make to China manufacturers. We can have our tach boards made over there for 14.00 cheaper a board...as well as the low fuel warning modules, the seat belt warning modules and all the other electronic items we make... I refuse to do it. I'll make them here or I won't make them at all.
We were thinking (and what a brain fart that was) about sending our PCB for the center cluster for the 1980-1982 cars there and while we supplied them with the Gerber files the bone heads still could not send us a good sample... Again another part that would be 15.00 cheaper to make... I'd rather make them here in the states, have control of them and know I've got a good product.
Willcox
We were thinking (and what a brain fart that was) about sending our PCB for the center cluster for the 1980-1982 cars there and while we supplied them with the Gerber files the bone heads still could not send us a good sample... Again another part that would be 15.00 cheaper to make... I'd rather make them here in the states, have control of them and know I've got a good product.
Willcox
Thank you Ernie!
Dave
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From: Sawyer MI
part number
its not.. its from Corvette Central.. I know for sure , I bought it and the tag with part # and logo is still on them .. the opposite side did not break but the bushings are crumbled to dust too like the one in the picture.. very poor quality ... I replaced them with new ones from Ecklers.. MUCH BETTER QUALITY
Thank You, Corvette Central
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Drifting
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It has been several years , but they have very few miles on them.. and yes , you no longer sell them.. but you did then.. and we can clearly see why you stopped.. the Part# is not legible enough on the tag now to give you.. you could possibly look up ALL my previous purchases back around 2009-2011.. .. I certainly don t have a receipt, nor did I ask for a refund or warranty .. I simply stated how poorly it was made and where it came from .. You do sell quality parts as well., I have bought them .. but this certainly was not one of them
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Drifting
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From: new iberia la
Quality Control? Quality control? You sure you want to go there? We Americans seemed to think we have to make $30 an hr to survive. So we have the big three car companies with a huge labor force making huge wages and charging huge prices. Is the quality any better? Yes & no. Are you forgetting the huge recalls of hundreds of thousands of cars with defected, deformed, incorrectly installed parts each and every yr? Those aren't China parts.
And I love my China aluminum cylinder heads. Do they flow as good as American made? Probably not. Do I care? Nope. I have had zero issues with them and they cost $1,000 less. And if you pay attention to the complaints about aluminum heads on this forum, its two American companies that receive the most issues.
Signed,
retired United Auto Worker rear axle division
And I love my China aluminum cylinder heads. Do they flow as good as American made? Probably not. Do I care? Nope. I have had zero issues with them and they cost $1,000 less. And if you pay attention to the complaints about aluminum heads on this forum, its two American companies that receive the most issues.
Signed,
retired United Auto Worker rear axle division
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From: Arizona - If you don’t know CFI, STOP proliferating the myths around it...
WOW! That is some bad quality right there! The cheap steel and rubber for the bushing. Looking like something you buy at Harbor Freight. That's what happens as company's go off shore just to "save" a buck and the consumer ends up paying the price in the end. The only thing I can say made good in china, but they aren't cheap is smart phones...Samsung, iPhone's etc. The one's jb78L-82 posted from Mid America look nice.
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Drifting
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From: new iberia la
WOW! That is some bad quality right there! The cheap steel and rubber for the bushing. Looking like something you buy at Harbor Freight. That's what happens as company's go off shore just to "save" a buck and the consumer ends up paying the price in the end. The only thing I can say made good in china, but they aren't cheap is smart phones...Samsung, iPhone's etc. The one's jb78L-82 posted from Mid America look nice.
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From: Arizona - If you don’t know CFI, STOP proliferating the myths around it...
I agree.. The replacements from Ecklers appear to be of much better quality.. but more $$... Installed now and car feels tight again. The strut broke on a Full power launch. when I heard the loud snap, I immediately got out of it.. I expected a much more serious breakage.. But when I saw the tire leaning in, I knew what happened.
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Drifting
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From: new iberia la
383 Stroker /525 HP.. 2.75 60R15s built up 700r4 with 2200 stall. .. FULL POWER LAUNCH.. tires were smoking .... I was thrilled it was only the strut that broke, it was a pretty loud SNAP! .. I built this car 9-10 years ago .. Its a brute that keeps on ticking.. .. this is minor stuff.
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So, lets review:
You slandered a good company that is a supporter of this forum. You admit the part was old. You admit you abused the part beyond its intended purpose.
I think I would have just trashed canned the part and cut my losses and not blamed anybody but myself.
You slandered a good company that is a supporter of this forum. You admit the part was old. You admit you abused the part beyond its intended purpose.
I think I would have just trashed canned the part and cut my losses and not blamed anybody but myself.
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Drifting
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From: new iberia la
So, lets review:
You slandered a good company that is a supporter of this forum. You admit the part was old. You admit you abused the part beyond its intended purpose.
I think I would have just trashed canned the part and cut my losses and not blamed anybody but myself.
You slandered a good company that is a supporter of this forum. You admit the part was old. You admit you abused the part beyond its intended purpose.
I think I would have just trashed canned the part and cut my losses and not blamed anybody but myself.
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Le Mans Master
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I'm not attacking you. I want you to clarify if a company is truly at fault here. But, it appears you attacked Corvette Central or they would not have responded and saved their reputation.
I too own a company and I would not appreciate someone degrading my reputation around the world. You could have contacted them directly with your concerns instead of showing off to all of the forum members.
Like I said, you could have just pitched the part and kept your mouth shut. You broke it through no fault of Corvette Central.
I too own a company and I would not appreciate someone degrading my reputation around the world. You could have contacted them directly with your concerns instead of showing off to all of the forum members.
Like I said, you could have just pitched the part and kept your mouth shut. You broke it through no fault of Corvette Central.
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Drifting
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From: new iberia la
I'm not attacking you. I want you to clarify if a company is truly at fault here. But, it appears you attacked Corvette Central or they would not have responded and saved their reputation.
I too own a company and I would not appreciate someone degrading my reputation around the world. You could have contacted them directly with your concerns instead of showing off to all of the forum members.
Like I said, you could have just pitched the part and kept your mouth shut. You broke it through no fault of Corvette Central.
I too own a company and I would not appreciate someone degrading my reputation around the world. You could have contacted them directly with your concerns instead of showing off to all of the forum members.
Like I said, you could have just pitched the part and kept your mouth shut. You broke it through no fault of Corvette Central.
Le Mans Master
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Now you are questioning my ability to read. Who is attacking who here? That part was never designed for over 500 H.P and you know that.
There's one of you on every forum: Rant & Rave excessively and slam others.
Have a good day.
There's one of you on every forum: Rant & Rave excessively and slam others.
Have a good day.
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Drifting
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From: new iberia la
To the Corvette Central representative.. I ask your opinion, if a customer has an issue with a weak or defective part , one designed for even big block cars with 435HP, should we contact you in secret as suggested above? Or would you prefer to be open and transparent with current and future customers and address it in the open? Theres is also a safety factor here.. Mine broke at relatively low speed,in a straight line.. but it could have just as easily snapped at 75mph in a curve.. the Result would have been much different, don t you agree? I posted the picture to warn anyone who has that strut.. You say you no longer sell them and that's a good thing.. I never asked for you to refund or replace it.. and don t expect you to. I just find the suggestion that you might want it handled secretly, unbelievable and cannot accept that Your company or any reputable company would.. I have bought many things from you since you opened long ago.. Most were quality items.. a few were not.. I did not start this thread to slander anyone. [ I said nothing that is not true].merely just to inform and warn others of the problem. ..some here think that is showing off.. I do not! Thank you for your time .. you can PM me if you wish not to respond here
Le Mans Master
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383 Stroker /525 HP.. 2.75 60R15s built up 700r4 with 2200 stall. .. FULL POWER LAUNCH.. tires were smoking .... I was thrilled it was only the strut that broke, it was a pretty loud SNAP! .. I built this car 9-10 years ago .. Its a brute that keeps on ticking.. .. this is minor stuff.
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I believe corvettes were expected to be driven hard occasionally. We have already heard from C C in this thread. And CC and fishguy kept it civil. If i were CC, i would ask for the parts back. Now, Chinese stuff. There have been several recent cases of lead based paint in Chinese toys sold in this country. I am fairly sure the American CEO's are aware it is not legal and hazardous to children. So more than likely required NO LEAD PAINT in their specs. It is possible one worker read specs to another and he heard "NO RED PAINT!" So he made sure they were all painted gleen and brue. It is also possible they don't like us very much and used lead paint deliberately anyway.
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