A/C Quadrajet solenoid bracket
12-16-2018, 09:19 AM
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Couple minor points.
I would like to locate and add a connector housing to the plug at the a/c compressor connector.
And to closer match what was commonly used and more correct looking in 1969 I would still like to replace the philips head screws with a flat head style screw. The picture below was what I used minus some length. ( Metric
)Rick
12-19-2018, 09:01 AM
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Hows it working? Very nice work done here.
I have a replacement Edelbrock 1401 and the avail solenoid through Edelbrock according to users is not strong enough to bump up the idle adequately.
Your set up looks like something that may work on my 68 BB.
Thanks for posting.
Marshal
I have a replacement Edelbrock 1401 and the avail solenoid through Edelbrock according to users is not strong enough to bump up the idle adequately.
Your set up looks like something that may work on my 68 BB.
Thanks for posting.
Marshal
12-19-2018, 10:57 AM
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Marshal,
Excellent a complete tremendous correction. I can’t understand why GM chose not to use this as a stock setup from the factory.
I will agree that this is the one downside, the solenoid does not have enough strength when first activated to bump up the idle without an initial light manual press of the gas pedal to start the idle increase. Once this is done it is good to go and requires no other attention.
I was wondering myself if this is the same issue with the 1970 350, 1969 427 or other years that came like this from the factory? I don’t know.
There seems to be many solenoid types maybe there are ones that are stronger than the one I choose (which was the Standard ES110).
But all in all it is still an incredible improvement.
Rick
Excellent a complete tremendous correction. I can’t understand why GM chose not to use this as a stock setup from the factory.
I was wondering myself if this is the same issue with the 1970 350, 1969 427 or other years that came like this from the factory? I don’t know.
There seems to be many solenoid types maybe there are ones that are stronger than the one I choose (which was the Standard ES110).
But all in all it is still an incredible improvement.
Rick
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12-19-2018, 01:38 PM
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Put a lighter return spring on the throttle cable.....
12-21-2018, 09:38 AM
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Rick,
Thanks for the feedback regarding my above ?... The uber rare 1968, 427 Quadrajet was long gone when I purchased her.
In lieu of spending my entire pension check on a restored 209 carb, I opted to purchase a new in box Edelbrock 1401.
It definitely resembles, at initial glance, the original equipment and that is suffice for me. I'm restoring slowly my AC as well.
I have the original solenoid wire running from the fuse box through the fire wall and then someone coiled it up around an insulation mat clip in the tow kick area.
This wire is plugged into the fuse box in accessory so that when the AC kicks on the solenoid is charged and bumps up the idle.
I'm planning on keeping this as a power source for the solenoid. Since everything '68 carb and idle solenoid bracketry is so ridiculously expensive
your set up looks to be the perfect solution for me. Thank you so much for taking the time and efforts to share a very worth while solution.
Merry Christmas to you and your family from mine.
Marshal
Thanks for the feedback regarding my above ?... The uber rare 1968, 427 Quadrajet was long gone when I purchased her.
In lieu of spending my entire pension check on a restored 209 carb, I opted to purchase a new in box Edelbrock 1401.
It definitely resembles, at initial glance, the original equipment and that is suffice for me. I'm restoring slowly my AC as well.
I have the original solenoid wire running from the fuse box through the fire wall and then someone coiled it up around an insulation mat clip in the tow kick area.
This wire is plugged into the fuse box in accessory so that when the AC kicks on the solenoid is charged and bumps up the idle.
I'm planning on keeping this as a power source for the solenoid. Since everything '68 carb and idle solenoid bracketry is so ridiculously expensive
your set up looks to be the perfect solution for me. Thank you so much for taking the time and efforts to share a very worth while solution.
Merry Christmas to you and your family from mine.
Marshal
07-08-2019, 11:13 PM
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1969 350/350 4spd A/C Fast Idle Solenoid, Brackets, & Hardware
I'm original owner of a 1969 Corvette 350/350 L46 4 speed A/C car. I special ordered car from the factory. It's a Bloomington Gold Survivor Car. I have original Q Jet carb 7029207 and am looking for the fast idle solenoid, brackets, and hardware. Years ago carb was swapped out due to stripped inlet threads and solenoid must have been tossed. I had saved the original carb and am now restoring it and need fast idle solenoid and brackets. M. F. Dobbins 68-72 fact book has a good photo of it on page 88. Rick Bizzoco's 68-69 book has a photo of it on page 108 and says Solenoid is #1114418 and brackets are #3940915 & #3940917. Any ideas where to find them? Thanks, Lou
05-18-2020, 10:30 PM
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Rick, page 162 in the NCRS judging manual contradicts your statement about L46 motor with AC not having this setup.
05-19-2020, 10:12 AM
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Marshal,
Excellent a complete tremendous correction. I can’t understand why GM chose not to use this as a stock setup from the factory.
I will agree that this is the one downside, the solenoid does not have enough strength when first activated to bump up the idle without an initial light manual press of the gas pedal to start the idle increase. Once this is done it is good to go and requires no other attention.
I was wondering myself if this is the same issue with the 1970 350, 1969 427 or other years that came like this from the factory? I don’t know.
There seems to be many solenoid types maybe there are ones that are stronger than the one I choose (which was the Standard ES110).
But all in all it is still an incredible improvement.
Rick
Excellent a complete tremendous correction. I can’t understand why GM chose not to use this as a stock setup from the factory.
I will agree that this is the one downside, the solenoid does not have enough strength when first activated to bump up the idle without an initial light manual press of the gas pedal to start the idle increase. Once this is done it is good to go and requires no other attention.
I was wondering myself if this is the same issue with the 1970 350, 1969 427 or other years that came like this from the factory? I don’t know.
There seems to be many solenoid types maybe there are ones that are stronger than the one I choose (which was the Standard ES110).
But all in all it is still an incredible improvement.
Rick
05-19-2020, 04:42 PM
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Haven't found the brackets & solenoid yet but I had the car at Carlisle 1969 Reunion last summer and talked to several carb guys in the swap meet area who thought they had some at home. I still need to follow up with them and get going on the project of rebuilding the original carb. I did find the electric harness that connects the A/C compressor to the solenoid.
I was one of (20) 69's at Carlisle under a special tent display for the 50th reunion. Had a awesome time and everyone really liked my original car. There were (3) original owner cars in display but only mine and one other with original paint. Thanks
I was one of (20) 69's at Carlisle under a special tent display for the 50th reunion. Had a awesome time and everyone really liked my original car. There were (3) original owner cars in display but only mine and one other with original paint. Thanks
05-19-2020, 05:04 PM
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Haven't found the brackets & solenoid yet but I had the car at Carlisle 1969 Reunion last summer and talked to several carb guys in the swap meet area who thought they had some at home. I still need to follow up with them and get going on the project of rebuilding the original carb. I did find the electric harness that connects the A/C compressor to the solenoid.
I was one of (20) 69's at Carlisle under a special tent display for the 50th reunion. Had a awesome time and everyone really liked my original car. There were (3) original owner cars in display but only mine and one other with original paint. Thanks
I was one of (20) 69's at Carlisle under a special tent display for the 50th reunion. Had a awesome time and everyone really liked my original car. There were (3) original owner cars in display but only mine and one other with original paint. Thanks
05-21-2020, 03:25 PM
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10-18-2021, 07:49 PM
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A/C Quadrajet solenoid bracket
Marshal,
Excellent a complete tremendous correction. I can’t understand why GM chose not to use this as a stock setup from the factory.
I will agree that this is the one downside, the solenoid does not have enough strength when first activated to bump up the idle without an initial light manual press of the gas pedal to start the idle increase. Once this is done it is good to go and requires no other attention.
I was wondering myself if this is the same issue with the 1970 350, 1969 427 or other years that came like this from the factory? I don’t know.
There seems to be many solenoid types maybe there are ones that are stronger than the one I choose (which was the Standard ES110).
But all in all it is still an incredible improvement.
Rick
Excellent a complete tremendous correction. I can’t understand why GM chose not to use this as a stock setup from the factory.
I will agree that this is the one downside, the solenoid does not have enough strength when first activated to bump up the idle without an initial light manual press of the gas pedal to start the idle increase. Once this is done it is good to go and requires no other attention.
I was wondering myself if this is the same issue with the 1970 350, 1969 427 or other years that came like this from the factory? I don’t know.
There seems to be many solenoid types maybe there are ones that are stronger than the one I choose (which was the Standard ES110).
But all in all it is still an incredible improvement.
Rick
10-20-2021, 04:23 PM
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10-20-2021, 04:44 PM
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Thanks ! I guess there's not enough stress on that to make any real difference once the screws are pretty snug. I'm debating using nuts versus threading holes. My throttle sits higher than yours so I'll need to mount the solenoid nearer the top of the bracket. (More excess bracket to cut or grind off) I know the solenoid is adjustable but am curious about how much torque is required to turn the shaft. Mine is pretty tight, but maybe just needs to be broken loose first. I get 3/8 inch of throw when the solenoid is engaged.