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The best thing about the c8 is that it makes all the top of the line c7s go way down in value. My buddy just picked up 2010 Z06 for $32k. 21,000 miles immaculate which is 6 grand under KBB
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Originally Posted by Little Mouse
Regardless if its liked or disliked nice to see GM move past henry fords model T transverse spring and his torque tube. Lol
What's wrong with transverse springs? A spring is a spring, and IIRC, the coilover does not reduce weight over the composite leaf, but does add cost. What are you running that will outcorner a C7 with a leaf spring?
And regarding the C5-C7 torque tube, give us a hint of your better idea of connecting the front engine and the rear differential in those cars.
I’m looking fwd to driving one and reading how quickly GM will deal with the first yr or 2 teething issues. A 2022 may be in our future to sit along the ‘72.
Sexy car but .......No stick shift??? Never again????
I am sad.
Having driven class 8 rigs for 32 years 29 of those for myself/ business, you might think after all that gear shifting i would prefer to drive an auto trans and that is true in my pickup. In an older vette you could not sell me one with an auto takes all the fun out of the car to me. That said these modern gm cars with the 10 speed auto if they made a 10 speed manual i would not want one to many gears to shift. One of those things where you can take a good thing to, to much of an extreme. The new C8 with 8 speed auto i would say is also two more gears then would be fun and finally you cant shift a stick shift as fast as a modern auto will. As far as they old transverse springs ya you could argue good enough for a street car but coil over's far better for anything raced with there adjustability. I hated the looks of C7 first time i saw it still hate its looks so no loss in my book. I do like C8 looks far better and the plain fact is a mid engine car has three advantages traction, polar inertha, braking so that is what chevy needed to do to move forward. I will say the stylest's cant figure out what to do with tailights since the decision to go away from 4 individual tailights. Just my 2 cents worth.
Last edited by Little Mouse; Jul 31, 2019 at 02:47 PM.
Except for that garish tail light panel, I think the C8 is much better looking than any of its predecessors, post C3. Of course it's all academic now but I think if Zora's 60's era mid engine car had come to fruition, it would have been a much better looking car than anything 1984 and up including the C8. The technology available today certainly makes for a more advanced machine but when it comes to body design, I think the early guys leave the later guys in the dust.
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Originally Posted by Little Mouse
Having driven class 8 rigs for 32 years 29 of those for myself/ business, you might think after all that gear shifting i would prefer to drive an auto trans and that is true in my pickup. In an older vette you could not sell me one with an auto takes all the fun out of the car to me. That said these modern gm cars with the 10 speed auto if they made a 10 speed manual i would not want one to many gears to shift. One of those things where you can take a good thing to, to much of an extreme. The new C8 with 8 speed auto i would say is also two more gears then would be fun and finally you cant shift a stick shift as fast as a modern auto will. As far as they old transverse springs ya you could argue good enough for a street car but coil over's far better for anything raced with there adjustability. I hated the looks of C7 first time i saw it still hate its looks so no loss in my book. I do like C8 looks far better and the plain fact is a mid engine car has three advantages traction, polar inertha, braking so that is what chevy needed to do to move forward. I will say the stylest's cant figure out what to do with tailights since the decision to go away from 4 individual tailights. Just my 2 cents worth.
Well, given that the C2-C7 models are street cars, then you now agree that there's nothing wrong with transverse springs. And as far as adjustability, there's no difference between a leaf spring and a coil spring. They both change the ride height of the car when you thread it up or down.
Still waiting for your better idea than the torque tube in the C5-C7 models.
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It's not a simple exercise in engineeering to relocate the engine behind the seats. So, obsolete in the sense that the C8 is a whole new breed of corvette than any other ever produced to date.
Well, given that the C2-C7 models are street cars, then you now agree that there's nothing wrong with transverse springs. And as far as adjustability, there's no difference between a leaf spring and a coil spring. They both change the ride height of the car when you thread it up or down.
Still waiting for your better idea than the torque tube in the C5-C7 models.
Nope. On a race car with coilovers you can make adjustments different from one side to the other, something cant be done with a transvere's spring important on some tracks. When chevy started racing the then new C5 the transverse springs were not used. Also every other sports car you can think of as street cars they do not use transverse springs , so guess your argument is they dont know what there doing. Bottom line the transverse is a cheap simple inexpensive way to do it. Same argument henry ford used to use it in the early 1900s. Torque tube no need for it something ford stopped using on 49 models. The rear independent suspension on the 61 jaguar and 63 up to the end of C4 vette very cheap poor design was finally fixed with the C5. Only thing holding the C2/C3 rear suspension together the half shafts, **** poor way to make something.
Last edited by Little Mouse; Jul 31, 2019 at 11:51 PM.
The info coming over my phone if correct is saying they have kept it just below 60 grand and chevy says they have already come close to maxing out the amount of orders they can take and build for the 2020 model year.
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Haven't heard what the cost of the Z51 option will be but that will put the vette in 0-60 in less than 3 seconds, so GM claims. Also heard rumour the Camaro may be put to rest in 2020. Maybe GM figures the Mopar and Ford pony crowd will migrate over to the C8 which just blows those pony cars away.
Also heard rumor the Camaro may be put to rest in 2020. Maybe GM figures the Mopar and Ford pony crowd will migrate over to the C8 which just blows those pony cars away.
I heard the same thing and read it will be on hold till the new platform it will be built on comes out. WE all die hard loyalist will not sway and the v6 pony car crowd wont pay 60k for a car.