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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 06:29 AM
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I have a small, single stage rotary vane vacuum pump at my disposal.

I'm planning to use it for working on / debugging the vacuum system of my car (instead of the MityVac hand pump I also own - I'm no Popeye...).

BUT: The question I have is, is it safe to connect it to the vacuum system of my C3.
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  • I know that a good / tight engine will make up to ~21" Hg at idle.
  • I assume that manifold vacuum will be even lower (more inches of Hg) in certain driving conditions (high RPM decel). But I don't know how much lower... And also, whether such peaks will actually reach the vacuum system, due to flow restricions like long lines and check valves, etc.
  • I'm confident that the rotary pump will eventually produce 30" Hg.
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  • Which makes me ask whether such a low vacuum level might lead to damage in the vacuum system, mainly a crushed vacuum reservoir.

Thoughts / experience made the hard way?

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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 07:24 AM
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About 21" Hg (approximately -10 psi) is all that a good, tight stock engine will produce. There are portions of the stock vacuum system in a C3 that you COULD harm with nearly full vacuum (-14.7 psi): vacuum reservoir tank comes to mind. But most of the parts will not care about that difference. You might limit the vacuum when you test the reservoir (pump it down to 15" vacuum and then close it off to see if it leaks down at all. Shutting off the pump is not adequate, as that pump will have some leakage when not running and you wouldn't know if the leak is from the pump or the part. You need a shut-off valve in the system to isolate the pump.
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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 08:04 AM
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You better have good hoses if you pull more than 20" as they will collapse......old hoses do this on a stock engine.

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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 11:09 AM
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Just put a vacuum gauge in line with your supplied vacuum line, then introduce a leak in your vacuum line, ie a small hole, monitor your vacuum level. It it’s too much then make your hole in the supply line bigger. Not enough, tape the hole over a little.

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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Would a shop vac create enough vacuum to run the headlight actuators?
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No.
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how about one of these? cheap.. run vacuum and shut it off with a valve when you want..add gauge to it and 2 nipples..
https://www.summet.com/blog/2011/03/...uum-reservoir/

and another

https://www.joewoodworker.com/veneer...reservoirs.htm

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Old Aug 9, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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You need a device that will PRODUCE viable level of vacuum...not to retain vacuum from some other source.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
You need a device that will PRODUCE viable level of vacuum...not to retain vacuum from some other source.
pump he describes may not have a gauge if for ac.. just pulls, this would allow to gauge and regulate

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Another car at idle will produce all the vacuum you need.
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