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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 12:30 AM
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I am looking at a possible project 69 to mess around with, not to make into a pristine car
However, I loathe rust and was digging into the usual places looking for it
I found some on the windshield surround, both on the top cross piece
and at the base of the A pilar

The base of the birdcage looks great, but I am concerned about what lay beneath the that A pilar
Is there a way to look at it without pulling the windshield?

I don't want to get in too deep if this windshield rust is a deal breaker

Thoughts?

Thanks
Glenn in San Diego

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A pilar bottom from the outside



A pilar bottom from the inside



Bottom of the birdcage


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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 04:28 AM
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top of windshield frame isn't to hard to repair. but if the lower corners are bad, it's pulling the front clip off time. huge job.
looking at the photos, if your not into a real big job, I'd pass on this one.

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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 07:16 AM
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Where you see a little there is most likely more and worse. I would plan on major repairs. But they are all rusted, unless you pay for some garage queen, and even they can have rust. It’s just the way it is with these cars.
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 07:38 AM
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#2 mount is beautiful. but pic above it, that is a hole, not just rust. on the plus side, if the windshield blows off, the body will stay on the frame.
maybe put this one out there for others. some of us are stupider than you and think "I can fix thar!"

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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 07:41 AM
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you still have the 396 car?
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Old Jul 2, 2021 | 11:32 AM
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So I sold everything I had to get a 63 project a couple of years ago, did a frame off on that and hopefully it will get running and
driving, without the interior items like carpet, by the end of the summer.

So the 69 project I documented here and the 396 71 I mentioned here have been gone.

The problem with the 63 is that it turned out too nice. It will be a driver but I was wanting something that I could
modify and drive without guilt.
Then this fell into my lap super cheap.
There is a lot to like about this car, but as stated above, it may be best to let it go

I will do some more investigation.

Thanks for the insight

Glenn in San Diego
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Regardless of how bad this rust is, you should save the car. A 69 is worth it.
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someone will. but this may be better for someone's main project. not a secondary one. i have a feeling one of us will get it after glenn decides to pass...

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well, so much for somebody other than glenn getting a nice chrome project. are you the pied piper of these guys? they just follow you home. congrats.
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Bad birdcage rust will make this thing disappear yesterday
although I am telling the usual suspects around here it is available
Will do more investigation later today

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Glenn, if they buy in is low enough, it's worth repairing.
Love the Riverside Gold on Saddle combination.
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What is hilarious is that I love the discovery phase
of each project
I usually find something horrid and declare the car is gone the next day
Then the next day I look at it and think, this is a car I wanted to mess with
and mod, I could mod it this way because of what I found the day before


However, tonight was ugly

I pulled the trim from around the windshield frame, both inside and outside
At first the top of the windshield frame didn't look so bad





but then came the sides




My oh my......



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Are you going to put a windshield frame in it?
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i think this is another 63. as soon as the rust is fixed, you are gonna look at an original, unhurt, never met a guy named bubba car and say it is too clean and original to mod.
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Most all of these C3 windshield frames have rust, just a question of how bad.

I would pull the windshield glass out and see how bad. Rust expands 7 or 8 times original metal thickness so it always looks bad but hopefully you still have some good metal under there.

I have put in weld in patch pieces in a number of C3 windshield frames where only a few holes were present but the remaining windshield frame was still quite sturdy. Obviously if the whole section is bad, then you need a new section.

Does the windshield frame in these areas feel stout when you push on it or pretty weak and flexes?

This Corvette is worth fixing in any event, no doubt.
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Are ‘69 windshield frames reproduced and if so do they fit well?

I love my ‘69 and would fix it if the metal was available.

Glenn, looks like a great side project you can work on and drive while you fix. Well, once you fix the windshield frame anyway.
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whole used ones can be found and just about every piece is reproduced, except the outer piece right below your windshield 72-older. apparently the 73-up piece can be used.
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Well things are getting interesting

I pulled off the passenger side a pillar trim that I had pulled back in an above pic
to find this





While it does look bad, it is quite sturdy, as was asked above
So the question becomes, what is happening at the lower outside bird cage below the lower windshield corners?
To repair that would mean pulling the front clip which I am not wanting to do for that reason

I pulled the vacuum operating windshield wiper cover




Nothing unusual there, but obviously the windshield will need to come out

Curious to see what is going on inside I pulled the passenger side dash




As you can see, the inside part of the birdcage is in great shape
So now the question is what is going on behind it?

More to come....
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