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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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When you talk about removing one leaf from the spring,,,,, are you doing this to adjust the ride height? The ride height should be adjusted by the length of the bolt on the ends of the spring.
Just to reiterate, make SURE the two big forward differential bolts are not to long. If you change the spring and it is smaller, you will crack the diff when you tighten them down. Only tighten the 4 bolts with full weight on the rear.
When the rear ride height is correct, the two axle shafts will be perfectly horizontal with the full weight on the car.

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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 02:53 PM
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this is what is confusing me. you said you had to remove one plate.....

stock was 6 leaf gymkhana..eaton will be 7..note my link and see how mine fit, had to remove one plate
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 07:00 PM
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Why would you have to remove 1 plate? Makes no sense.
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kodpkd
Why would you have to remove 1 plate? Makes no sense.
the eaton spring comes with a thick plate.. it makes the spring taller than original. Remove the plate then the height is the same as original. Eaton confirmed ok to remove. It is not a leaf..note the original plate is very thin and the original leafs are thicker (6) than the eaton 7.

i suppose you can leave it..but make sure bolts are in far enough..I want to be sure bolts were as original depth. No more to possibly crack case..no less to possibly sacrifice holdng.
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Old Mar 4, 2023 | 09:49 AM
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I understand. Probably wont hurt anything. My guess is they put the top plate on the spring for stability. This will match the differential mounting better than the curved spring. Longer front mounting grade 8 bolts would also solve the issue.
I would like to know how much the original gray spring was sagging?
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Old Mar 4, 2023 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kodpkd
I understand. Probably wont hurt anything. My guess is they put the top plate on the spring for stability. This will match the differential mounting better than the curved spring. Longer front mounting grade 8 bolts would also solve the issue.
I would like to know how much the original gray spring was sagging?
not much..but could tell when going over a vertical whoopdy doo the *** would scape..the new spring height is actually a little low but has some spring in it compared to worn 6 leaf when compressed. It’s good spring.
op’s spring is toast..
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Is this about INTERPON's rear spring or 89VETTE's spring?
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Old Mar 4, 2023 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by interpon;[url=tel:1606344594
1606344594[/url]]the eaton spring comes with a thick plate.. it makes the spring taller than original. Remove the plate then the height is the same as original. Eaton confirmed ok to remove. It is not a leaf..note the original plate is very thin and the original leafs are thicker (6) than the eaton 7.

i suppose you can leave it..but make sure bolts are in far enough..I want to be sure bolts were as original depth. No more to possibly crack case..no less to possibly sacrifice holdng.
understood. I ordered the Eaton spring. It’s on back order and said he has 46 being produced in a few weeks. He also confirmed that no one makes the original Gymkhana 6 leaf spring.
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 09:22 PM
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Before you consider a new spring is the spring itself sagging or are the hanger bushings worn out. Worn hanger bushings can lower the rear as much as 1-1/2” as they did with mine.
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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 04:16 AM
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i was gonna say the same. everybody else is trying to get their cars lower. you can shorten up on the rear spring bolts after replacing the squished end bushings to get it as high as you want.
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Someone already tried this:



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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 09:03 AM
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Wow,,,, 89vette. This is the first time I have ever seen a spring that sagged out. You are correct, that end bolt has been shortened up more than enough. You can even tell by the upwards angle of the end of the spring. I hate to say it but with the rust, there is probably more restoration you could do on the suspension. Thanks for the picture.
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Old Mar 7, 2023 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 89vette
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Thats really bad. Those hangers are shot but the springs are too. They look like the ends are higher than the middle like a smile. They should be flat or with the ends lower like a frown.
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Yes it’s bad. This is my fathers car that he bought new in 78. It has 30,000 miles on it and he’s started driving it again recently. I’m a car guy and he’s not. He thinks since it only has 30,000 miles, it can’t be worn out but he has no sense of time. I have a lot of performance cars new and old and they are all in top condition. I drove it last week as he said there is something banging in the back and he sure is right. There is a horrible sound coming from the rear under acceleration that sounds like the driveshaft is hitting something every revolution. It needs to be put up on a lift and diagnosed. I told him not to drive it but he doesn’t listen.

I like projects like this but this car is a slippery slope. It’s going to turn into a much bigger project. I think the whole rear suspension is going to need rebuilt. Oh yea and the carb is screwed up and it runs pig rich. The exhaust burns your eyes.

He’s going to be 80 this year. He has his own jet and flies it and keeps it in perfect condition but this car just isn’t his passion. If it had wings it would be a different story!
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What jet does he have? He must have a good copilot.
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Old Mar 8, 2023 | 06:09 AM
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Cessna CJ4. He flies it himself but has a copilot when anyone else is in it.
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Old Mar 8, 2023 | 07:56 PM
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around 2005 I changed the rear spring on my 78SA from stock (9 leaf) to a F-41 (7 leaf) spring and I used longer bolts and all new rubber bushings. The car rides very hard. If I had to do it again I would look into a softer fiberglass spring.
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It rides pretty hard with the 6 leaf Gymkhana spring. Probably why it feels like interior is going to fall out when it’s driven.
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Originally Posted by 89vette
It rides pretty hard with the 6 leaf Gymkhana spring. Probably why it feels like interior is going to fall out when it’s driven.
it rides hard because you have very little spring left. Its travel is gone with bushing added.
the eaton gymkhana spring is not hard at all and should Not use longer bolts. If you need longer bolts the spring is not correct.
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I would go to VanSteel and order a Composite Spring for his car, as well as all the rubber.
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