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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bikespace
Ridetech makes it, Borgeson sells it, along with Jegs, Summit, and the usual suspects.

https://www.borgeson.com/Ridetech-C2...Box-Brace.html
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post up the results of the install, I have been thinking about this change to get rid of the ram and lines that always seem to eventually leak on my ‘69. Plus clean up the underside of the car a little bit. My steering works decent but a bunch of slop I don’t like and it seems like this swap will fix that. I run a 275/50/15 up front, have for years. I think I’ll do the brace for good measure!
Car is just coming apart now and will likely be in pieces for a few months but I can definitely post pictures as we get there.

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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 06:50 PM
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Not sure why you need to use the original carriage bolts once you put the brace on the square wholes are not accessible. Also I I'm running a big block with 21/8 primary's small dimple on second tube. Not an issue

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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 08:50 AM
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Not sure why you need to use the original carriage bolts once you put the brace on the square wholes are not accessible. Also I I'm running a big block with 21/8 primary's small dimple on second tube. Not an issue
They say tire can rub on bolts at lock.
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 08:53 AM
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They say tire can rub on bolts at lock.
I've seen that, and I've experienced that. There are ways to limit the max left-hand turn extent which would fix that. Otherwise, it's really only an issue in parking lots.

If you can get your carriage bolts out in one piece, great! I had to choose to cut the bolts, cut the body, or pull the body off the chassis, as @reno stallion shows above.
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 10:18 AM
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I have heard several people say the Borgeson is higher from the frame, and that is what causes it to flex.
It is not higher on the frame, it is exactly the same location, because it lines up with the steering shaft.

HOWEVER the boost pressure on a Borgeson is applied at the box.
The boost pressure on the OEM system is applied at the Ram.
Two completely different locations.

On the OEM system some pressure is applied at the manual box, and some from the ram, so the applied pressure is split between some above the frame, and some below.
Hence much less frame twisting with the OEM system, and much more with the Borgeson.
Use the brace.

The OEM system tends to crack the frame where the ram bracket attaches. There is a very thin section of metal between that bracket and it's bolt access hole only about an inch away. That's just a weak spot.

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Originally Posted by Bikespace
I've seen that, and I've experienced that. There are ways to limit the max left-hand turn extent which would fix that. Otherwise, it's really only an issue in parking lots.

If you can get your carriage bolts out in one piece, great! I had to choose to cut the bolts, cut the body, or pull the body off the chassis, as @reno stallion shows above.
I lube everything with Kroll oil a week before I start on anything like this. I'm lucky tho being mine spent most of it's life in the south in a garage.
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