Can we now split the C-3 site, please.....
Safety Car
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From: Surrey
Originally Posted by olouieo
I like reading, so I don't mind once in a while reading that Paul Farted
Anyhow, I'm guilty. I created a post yesterday on something that I could have found in the archives, but the search function wasn't working at the time & I'm in a real danger of having the cash available to spend, so needed some info
Searching the archives for info is very useful (do it regularly), but am I the only one that's noticed that occasionally, in the several pages of hits on a common topic, that somebody will throw in some information or an alternative idea that nobody had ever mentioned before? I don't mind the old favorites coming up now & then as I don't have to read them, but if I do then there might be a fresh approach in there (maybe even from a newbie! :eek ).
Why not use Windows for what it was designed to do? I just have a separate Window for each page, while one is loading I'm reading down the posts on another.
Melting Slicks
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From: Vancouver BC, Canada
Originally Posted by turtlevette
to hell with the vote. Its more important to do the right and logical thing.
SPLIT IT
I'm sick of wading through all the baloney to get to the good stuff. How much are we missing because some people are lonely and just want to shoot the shiet.
SPLIT IT
I'm sick of wading through all the baloney to get to the good stuff. How much are we missing because some people are lonely and just want to shoot the shiet.
SPLIT THE DAMN C3 FORUM: TECH and GENERAL
Burning Brakes
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From: Minnesota
I agree with Budmans point--one of the main reasons I took a long absense. However, I do see the Forum taking a hit if it is diced up into small pieces. So might I suggest:
1. The moderators taking a more active role in controlling or shutting down threads that get "way off" the intention of this Forum.
2. Somehow enlarge, refine the Archives and Search areas of the Forum so the " poly or rubber bushings " topic doesn't pop up on a daily basis that seems to send some very interesting and indepth topics to an early demise.
Just some thoughts--have a "Vette Weekend"
SEMPER FI--1970 Dave
1. The moderators taking a more active role in controlling or shutting down threads that get "way off" the intention of this Forum.
2. Somehow enlarge, refine the Archives and Search areas of the Forum so the " poly or rubber bushings " topic doesn't pop up on a daily basis that seems to send some very interesting and indepth topics to an early demise.
Just some thoughts--have a "Vette Weekend"
SEMPER FI--1970 Dave
Instructor
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From: Pompano Bch Florida
Originally Posted by turtlevette
to hell with the vote. Its more important to do the right and logical thing.
SPLIT IT
I'm sick of wading through all the baloney to get to the good stuff. How much are we missing because some people are lonely and just want to shoot the shiet.
SPLIT IT
I'm sick of wading through all the baloney to get to the good stuff. How much are we missing because some people are lonely and just want to shoot the shiet.
Racer
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From: Mechanicsville VA
I think it is great that we have so many posts and members that we need to consider how to best run the forum. I have learned from the gurus and been able to put my 2 cents in from time to time. Doing a body-off renovation is a little easier when you can learn from someone who's 'been there, done that', and sometimes you just compare several different methods to see what's good for you. Off topic, as long as it says 'OT', will let you skim over it. Putting an accurate header on helps the most. I can live with the forum either way, but the techie stuff is what I look at.
I do have one question- just what does "ttt" mean??? (I've never been able to figure that one out-is it clean enough to tell me?)
I do have one question- just what does "ttt" mean??? (I've never been able to figure that one out-is it clean enough to tell me?)
Race Director
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maybe we should try it jsut to see how it works. sometimes i too get frustrated that interesting stuff gets swaped in rubbish, a good example is indeed scooters LS1 post. That stuff is interesting to a lot of people (I think) and I missed it so I figure so did a lot of others. Some people here swamp the forum witha lot of rubbish and from time to time I am almost tempted to put a nasty reply under it.
Burning Brakes
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From: Minnesota
I do have one question- just what does "ttt" mean??? (I've never been able to figure that one out-is it clean enough to tell me?)[/QUOTE]
It mean To The Top--as when you type TTT and enter it the topic goes to the top of the list--to keep it current--or one of the first topics people will see
SEMPER FI--1970 Dave
It mean To The Top--as when you type TTT and enter it the topic goes to the top of the list--to keep it current--or one of the first topics people will see
SEMPER FI--1970 Dave
Melting Slicks
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From: Moon Township PA
"to hell with the vote."
Yeah, I agree. That democratic process, you know - one person, one vote, really gets in the way. Let's do what I want to do, not what the majority do. :flag
I hope you were kidding when you typed that response. Either that or you had one too many barley pops. :shocked:
Gary
Yeah, I agree. That democratic process, you know - one person, one vote, really gets in the way. Let's do what I want to do, not what the majority do. :flag
I hope you were kidding when you typed that response. Either that or you had one too many barley pops. :shocked:
Gary
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Race Director
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Actually, the poll may be a way to opress the smaller group that wants a split 
Some people have serious problems with all the junk posts swamping the good stuff. Because there's a majority that likes it that way a smaller group has to suffer. Since the junk posters seem to be more active than the others it might not be too much of a problem for them to check 2 forums. I feel that the problem with interesting threads getting pushed back to page 2 is a problem that needs attention, regardless of what the majority wants. This forum is about tech stuff and car stuff, not about what your cat brought home today.
Some people have serious problems with all the junk posts swamping the good stuff. Because there's a majority that likes it that way a smaller group has to suffer. Since the junk posters seem to be more active than the others it might not be too much of a problem for them to check 2 forums. I feel that the problem with interesting threads getting pushed back to page 2 is a problem that needs attention, regardless of what the majority wants. This forum is about tech stuff and car stuff, not about what your cat brought home today.
Le Mans Master
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From: The Motor City
The vote gets closer and closer to SPLIT every time we do it. I, personally, am getting sick of the OT stuff here that make the good stuff go to page 2 within a matter of hours. At least some people got to share in my joy (and see the video) when I fired up the LS1. I'm sure that many people missed it because of posts like "OT: WiFi". WFT!!! This isn't a computer helpdesk. There are plenty of other forums for that stuff... we even have one here called OT!!
How about if Dave and George delete any post in C3 that contains OT. Maybe if people were vigilant in keeping on topic, we wouldn't need the split.
That being said, a goldfish can only grow as big as it's bowl. Put it in a bigger bowl and it can grow much larger. The C3 section is about as big as it can get given current constraints. Give us more space and watch it grow. How many new users can we get if they come here looking for Corvette info and have to sort thru computer help topics?!?!?!
-Matt
How about if Dave and George delete any post in C3 that contains OT. Maybe if people were vigilant in keeping on topic, we wouldn't need the split.
That being said, a goldfish can only grow as big as it's bowl. Put it in a bigger bowl and it can grow much larger. The C3 section is about as big as it can get given current constraints. Give us more space and watch it grow. How many new users can we get if they come here looking for Corvette info and have to sort thru computer help topics?!?!?!
-Matt
Drifting
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From: Wylie TX
I always, I'm strongly in favor of the split.
I find it interesting that apparently the Engine Mods forum was up for a delete. Did anyone read the message "RE:The future of the Engine Mods section"? About 75% of the replies to keep it are C1/C2/C3 people. These are also the only forums that don't have a serarate General & Tech section.
The C3 forum would not even come close to dying if it were split. I can't find the "forum statistics", but last year when I brough this up, C3 General signifigantly out-posted any other single forum with C5 General being the closest.
I also think we should also have a C3 OT section. This way, the C3 guys that for whatever reason do not post to the OT forum would have a place to post their OT stuff.
I do like the new "preview" feature so I don't have to click on the post with subjects "Check this out" or "I need help" without having any clue as to what it's about.
Get the poll started.
I find it interesting that apparently the Engine Mods forum was up for a delete. Did anyone read the message "RE:The future of the Engine Mods section"? About 75% of the replies to keep it are C1/C2/C3 people. These are also the only forums that don't have a serarate General & Tech section.
The C3 forum would not even come close to dying if it were split. I can't find the "forum statistics", but last year when I brough this up, C3 General signifigantly out-posted any other single forum with C5 General being the closest.
I also think we should also have a C3 OT section. This way, the C3 guys that for whatever reason do not post to the OT forum would have a place to post their OT stuff.
I do like the new "preview" feature so I don't have to click on the post with subjects "Check this out" or "I need help" without having any clue as to what it's about.
Get the poll started.
Last edited by BeaterShark; Jul 9, 2004 at 08:46 AM.
Racer
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From: Murphy Texas
I have too many other things to worry about, and get frustrated about, than whether or not to split the forum. Maybe it's just me, but this seems mighty trivial. It seems most of us do this for fun, and part of that is the tech part, but not all of it.
And as for "newbies", thank God they still come here and join. We all were "newbies" once. Remember the excitement? There's is like being in new love. Everything is new and exciting. I'm afraid for others this has become like a long term marriage where the relationship is too technical and the spark is gone.
Last edited by USA SHARK; Jul 9, 2004 at 08:52 AM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Katy (Houston) TX
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Here's my vote to split. The topics, that is. And if not, I'm getting closer and closer to splitting from the forum myself. I love the help but it takes so much time now wading through all the OT crap. And I'm so sick of people saying "well just don't read it when it's off topic". That's not the point. The point is that informative, technical posts (isn't that the reason for the CorvetteForum?) get lost VERY quickly. And the technical topics are so much more valuble and useful for the older C3's, 2's, and 1's than the computer driven 4's and 5's. How many C5'ers swap their engines and transmissions ON THEIR OWN? Not many. But I see people doing that all the time here.
So tell me again, why don't we have it split up here like the other "tuners
"?
So tell me again, why don't we have it split up here like the other "tuners
"?
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Racer
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From: Pennsville NJ
I think it would be nice to at least try a split. I think "split" may be a bad word to use since it may make some people feel that the C3 forum will be a bunch of different forums, when really its still just one forum, but with much better organization. Its the internet... everything is just a click away.
Race Director
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From: Living in the Hartland
Funny how everytime this comes ups if you count the OT posts you find it is very low. Right now there are about 5 real OT posts if throw out the ones about the forum upgrade. So having to 'sort' through an extra 5 posts is too taxing? Guess these are the people that drive around for an hour waiting for a parking spot to open up in the front row at the mall.
Drifting
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From: Saw' em off TX
Some guys like tech, some guys like trailor queens, some guys like to smoke ricers. I like it the way it is. Mainly because we can all learn, instead of staying in a specific section. Quit yo bit*hin!
Melting Slicks
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From: Katy (Houston) TX
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"Staying in a specific section", that makes no sense. It will still all be in the C3 area and you can just simply CLICK between them. Without it though, it sure does quickly kill some of these other good posts for obviously more fun and informative posts to the C3 hobby such as What did Bubba do to your car
Drifting
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From: Wylie TX
Originally Posted by Fevre
Funny how everytime this comes ups if you count the OT posts you find it is very low. Right now there are about 5 real OT posts if throw out the ones about the forum upgrade. So having to 'sort' through an extra 5 posts is too taxing?
I don't care how little it is. It clutters up the forum and is not following the Forum Guidelines you AGREED to when you signed up. I'm too lazy to find it, but there is a guideline that says "Make the post in the appropriate forum". There is an OT forum, so OT posts should be posted in the OT forum.
Guess these are the people that drive around for an hour waiting for a parking spot to open up in the front row at the mall.
Honestly, I want the split as I generally don't care about the "general" posts. I don't care to see (or have to weed through) the "What color...", "Does your wife drive your vette", "Look at this ..." etc
If it were split, I'd probably mainly go to the tech forum and only when I had some "spare" time would I venture into the general forum.
As it is, I now only come here when I either need something or have some "spare" time.
Racer
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From: Alpharette GA
I am Newbie on this Vette form so let me give IMO a shot. I have on occasions gone back to find an answer, for a problem or question only to discover I have to spend a lot of time searching for the thread because it dropped off the front page vary quickly due to all the chit chat.
Second point I am a Moderator on another Web site of similar type (boat MFG) sense 1996 and 2 years ago that Co split Tech and General and YES they had the same reservation as the owners or this form had, BUT after 2 years THAY NOW AMIT it has worked out even better than the old way, and would never go back. It ALLOWED more traffic to occur, without the possible slow down that drives people away (kind of like a 2 lane road verses a 1 lane road.
IMO Successful Web pages are Easy to navigate Clear and to the point, and most all try hard not to TAKE my valuable time which is in (limited supply now days) an force me to wade hip deep in BS that does not make my experience hear any better.
Just my experience for what it's worth.
Second point I am a Moderator on another Web site of similar type (boat MFG) sense 1996 and 2 years ago that Co split Tech and General and YES they had the same reservation as the owners or this form had, BUT after 2 years THAY NOW AMIT it has worked out even better than the old way, and would never go back. It ALLOWED more traffic to occur, without the possible slow down that drives people away (kind of like a 2 lane road verses a 1 lane road.
IMO Successful Web pages are Easy to navigate Clear and to the point, and most all try hard not to TAKE my valuable time which is in (limited supply now days) an force me to wade hip deep in BS that does not make my experience hear any better.
Just my experience for what it's worth.
Drifting
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From: Saw' em off TX
Originally Posted by tshort
"Staying in a specific section", that makes no sense. It will still all be in the C3 area and you can just simply CLICK between them. Without it though, it sure does quickly kill some of these other good posts for obviously more fun and informative posts to the C3 hobby such as What did Bubba do to your car
Last edited by 03ki11er; Jul 9, 2004 at 05:17 PM.