But after 22+ years, how many of these things are bone stock anymore anyways? Aside from those NCRS fruitcakes and their museum pieces that is.

 

Just going to true dual exhaust and turbo mufflers (Mid America) with stock exhuaust manifolds got me significant power/performance increases on my 1975 L48 (165 hp). I also put on a set of World Products S/R heads (higher compression), a Holley spreadbore carb, recurved distributor, Weiand Action Plus intake (stock cam). This truly changed the character of the car - feels great for a stock L48 bottom end, and is very streetable and still quiet (sometimes too quiet).

 

If upgrading your exhaust, I'd strongly recommend going to the best, legal (for your area) system you can afford. Plan your new exhaust system to accomodate any planned future mods or engine swaps. I'd avoid a compression bent 2 1/4" system. If you can legally run duals, I'd recommend a mandrel bent 2 1/2" system with Dynomax ultraflow mufflers, a set of the longest-tube, smog-legal headers you can find, a nice smog legal dual plane (if not an issue, a RPM Q-Jet). The above mods will likely improve your economy as well as your performance, if you can keep yur foot out of it. At this point, your engine will be cam-limited, and once that is addressed, your heads will be what's holding you back. The engine must be matched as a combo, which must in turn match the rest of your car.
Good luck and enjoy your car. Wes www.picturetrail.com/wesmigletz

 

I thought at first you were going to tell us something that happened with your co-worker that was the only good thing about the day.

 

Man, this baby is all over the place. I can't keep up..

 

hehe, your not kidding.... Something you guys are also forgetting about factory equipt turbo cars is, hp is easily gained on them also. You can easily pull a few more psi of boost out of any stock equipt turbo car for next to free. That makes an incredible amount of extra hp considering the already low #s.

 

Not completely true! My 70 LT-1 is no dog.

Mine is darn close and it is driven!! It will still be driven when finished.

There are several older vettes that can keep up with or beat most of the new cars on the road today, even in stock form.

 

True, but with the current muscle war brewing between manufacurers, it's getting harder to do. Someday the bored and stroked 283 I'm building for my '59 will be swapped for a modified late model engine. It's just a matter of time and money.

 

C-3 vs. Ricer....I think the President has the right idea! A butt kicker driving a butt kicker. A great combination

 

Another fine mitsubishi product.................

 

then again.. throw 500-1000 at the turbo eclipse and game over.

Boost Controller, + intake + cat back = gobs of power.

I'm not doubting you, you're just not in a level playing field.
Modded V8 vette vs stock 4 banger turbo.. come on.. that would be like me racing a Hennessy Viper

 

One pass through town on a weekend and the fart pipe boys are chasing me down. They want to show off to whoever is in their car that they can wipe a vette off the road. My car appears completly stock till I leave the light and NONE of them, turbo, NOS, blah blah blah, I don't care, none of them can stay with me. Every now and then someone runs good and the thing sound like a bumble bee on acid that's gonna explode, who would want something like that. Then they get all friendly "what's under the hood" I just tell them "don't mess with a Vette"

(before I built my engine they used to **** me off)

 

I had one of those Mits. Cordia Turbos years ago and it hauled. Not a 14 second car, but it would hang with a Supra and 300's of the day. I think it ran 15.8 with the air on.

 

C3w4sp,

I had to read your post twice because it deserves it. :thumbsup:

 

We cannot help what the nitwit engineers did when they put these enemic motors in our cars. We can only change that and make it the way it was supposed to be

I think the ricers better take a close look at the C3 they want to buzz from now on as most are getting some serous heart transplants.

Ask the guy in the 2005 Subaru WRX STi that was pacing me when I was in the middle of seating my pistons rings, second gear 3000rpms and I hammered the gas, almost candycottoned the rear tires and he was a spec in the mirror in a second, I 'll never forget the way that guys head was bobbing up and down, just like the little dogs head you put in the back window, at the next light.

 

Did Mitsubishi even make a 1979 model year automobile? I don't think I have heard of one that far back...

 

Who cares about stock anything? Just get out your wallets and wrenchs do what you can and cook some rice.

 

Not always true. I had a friend of mine with a very modified eclipse GSX and the best he ever ran was a 12.47 anyone with the c3 who does there mods right should be past that point.

 

Red Shift

Thanks for sayin so, it's more fun doin it than talkin about it. I think Motorhead is right many C3's are running as good as they look. Thats the what is great about these cars. Super easy to modify.

How fast you go is a matter of dough!

Quit wondering if they are faster, go make sure your respectable and most won't even come close. (without nearly exploding)

 

This debate always cracks me up.
No matter what forum I go to, this comes up sometime.

It's all a matter of horsepower to weight ratio and getting it to the ground. All of which takes $.

Doesn't matter if it's import or american iron.

Watch the import car drags if you don't think they can be fast.

If you spend the $$, you can make just about anything fast.

Point is, most "ricers" don't have fast cars, they spend most of their money on ground effects, paint jobs, wheels and thumpin' stereo's.

Cubic inches do matter, though you couldn't convince most ricers of that. If you modify their civic and my vette the exact same way, turbo, cam, heads, etc. the vette is going to be stronger simply because of physics. You don't see top fuelers running front wheel drive turbo 4's. They run large displacement V8's with blowers, and lots of $$ thrown at them.

My vette is currently not the fastest thing I've owned or driven.

It will be respectable when I'm done. I have no desire to have the fastest thing out there as I just don't have the budget.

If I get the thing to run high 12's or low 13's I'm gonna be one happy SOB. Because it is one beautiful machine!!

At the end of the day, they will have a mitsu or honda and I'll have a vette. For some reason, you just don't see anyone restoring old hondas, etc.