You just decrease the life expectancy... remember the turbo K car. Fast, for what it was... didnt last real long because of what it was!

 

Hmm must not have been very modified if the best he could do was 12.47. I went 12.87 with about 500 invested.

There is definitely a fine line between rice and nice. Often those who jump on the rice bandwagon cant respect any fast car.

I give props to just about anything that puts down power and looks clean. I give props to Corz all the time for coming a long way with his car.

PRESSURERAT- American cars use plenty of foreign screws. Back when I woned my 98 Olds I had to go out and buy a metric tool set just to work on my GM car.

 

Hmm must not have been very modified if the best he could do was 12.47. I went 12.87 with about 500 invested.

There is definitely a fine line between rice and nice. Often those who jump on the rice bandwagon cant respect any fast car.

I give props to just about anything that puts down power and looks clean. I give props to Corz all the time for coming a long way with his car.

PRESSURERAT- American cars use plenty of foreign screws. Back when I woned my 98 Olds I had to go out and buy a metric tool set just to work on my GM car.

 

Actually he had all kind of stuff on the car. Bigger injectors, cut out exhaust, 1g head, adjustable boost control and a bunch of other stuff.

 

It all depends on what you do with it. There are nice domestics and nice imports. There are rice versions of both, as well. I've got a nice 72 Chevy PU that is almost done, and when it is I will be moving on to a C3. My driver is the car at the bottom of this post. It's really nice inside and out, no big wings or 54 inch rims etc., just a nice leather interior and black shiny paint. It's a decent mover, but I'd rather put money into a big V8 for a few hundred HP NA than twice as much into the Honda for a turbo to not make as much. Throw a turbo on the V8 and watch out...

 

Not neccessarily. I would not use an early attempt for turboing cars as the final verdict. When did production of those turbod k cars even start? Somewhere in the early to mid 80s right? All modern factory turbo and sc cars are great for longevity. The engines are built around the idea of being boosted. Adding a few extra pounds of boost on an engine that is already built for boost isnt a very big deal.

 

I have '71 C3 LT1 that produces about 330 hp. She'll probably keep up with the Mitsubishi. Honestly, I wouldn't race her, I put too much work into her for that.

 

Bigger injectors dont do anything to make these cars faster, they only make it safer. 2G's are far more heavy then an early 90's GSX. (I believe you guys were trying to compare old to old so figured Id toss out a early 90 GSX rather then a 2g.)

Personally if your friends GSX was heavily modded and hes only running mid 12's then he needs to learn how to drive.

I agree with Whichvette. Ive seen plenty of "RICED" out 2g's but I've also seen many very clean fast 2g's. Same goes for any import and domestic. When I see a Ford Mustang with altezzas and a supra wing I call it domestic Rice.

Basically anything can be ricey.

Would you consider my car rice:

 

 

Why not compare the 70s C3 to 70s imports which suffered under the identical smog issuesand had to address them w/ the same known technology available at the time. What did a '73 XKE put out? What about a '76 911 or a '77 Tr6. How about a 79 Rx7 (90hp)? Or a '71 240Z?

 

Why not brag that you beat up a 6 your old? Comparing the 70's Vette to most 70's imports is foolish....just imagine what an idiot you would look like reving your motor to provoke a 74 Toyota Corolla.

Some import sports cars faired the 70's pretty well. The 76-78 Z car had ~180hp with <1/2 the displacement of the Corvette.

The sad thing is that ricers in Hondas with fart tips and cut springs know that (most) 70's Vetes are easy targets. It still amazes me that people actually think my 78 Vette is fast.

20 minutes after buying my 78 Vette my dad and I lined up against each other. I was driving my wife's '99 Miata with an FM2 turbo kit. The race lasted less than ONE GEAR before the Miata had 2-3 car lengths!

Don't even try to compare my 78 Vette to my MR2. My MR2 puts almost THREE TIMES the power to the ground. And it weighs 400+ lbs less. Don't even think its a torqueless wonder either..480+ lb ft. And don't argure that it has no power band, yes it barely makes 200lb ft of torque by 3500rpm, but it makes over 400rwhp from 4500rpm all the way to 8000 rpm. Hmm, my 78 Vette makes power right off idle, roughly 1500rpm up to 5000rpm. Thats a 3500rpm power band, same as my MR2. My MR2 can accelerate to 100 in less time than my 78 Vette can get to 60 mph. Did I metnion it can handle too? Stop on a dime, has A/C and cruise control too.

So if you are driving an L48 Vette you should probably live in fear of being embarassed by a local ricer. If that bothers you then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Geez, you can buy a brand new 400hp motor straight from GM for less than the cost of most decent turbo kits. You are still driving cars armed with the most popular V8 in history. Parts are dirt cheap, you really have no excuse. Besides who wants a matching numbers 165hp car anyway?

Just havin' fun,

Aaron

 

Beating up on rice is like beating up a woman. You look bad if you loose and when you win it wasnt a fair fight.

 

Hmm... comon now, lets compare apples to apples. You are talking about a totally stock 78 corvette and how it is slow. On the same token, you say it isnt fair to compare it to other cars of its day becuase it is like beating a 6 year old. No matter how you cut it, the Z still only had 180 hp stock. Doesnt matter the displacement, you are starting to sound like a ricer. "Well if my engine was as big as yours i would have beat you." That is a great example of 2 different companies solutions to meeting regulations. And why even try comparing your stock 78 vette to MR2 and Miata, which both seem to have turbo kits? It is best to compare the vette to those cars when they are all in STOCK trim. A better example of stock vs stock would be this. A few weeks ago my stock 69 L46 pulled 2-3 cars on a fart canned prelude in 2nd gear. That is a much better example then my stock car cant keep up with a high boost modded car, they are both true, yet one is a better comparison.

 

Well said!

 

Maybe the best way to compare cars of different generations etc... Is by money spent...........Why would anyone compare a 2003 import car that cost $25000 to a stock $5000 C3???? Maybe a $5000 ricer with a $5000 turbo/intake/exhaust setup should drag race a $5000 76 vette with a $5000 500+hp/500+tq AR Racing 406 solid roller motor???????

 

 

LOL

 

HAHAHA!!! You mean I shouldnt store the L48 motor out of my 75 Vette so I can convert it back to numbers matching later?!

 

Congratulations on your victory over a 4 seat ~200hp Japanese economy car ;-)

Aaron

 

I went out for a cruise the other night in my 68, and a ricer pulled up reving his little thing up, and letting me hear his blow off valve make is psssp sound - don't get me wrong, I love almost all cars, even some blown ricers, but this kid obviously just liked that sound, and wanted me to hear it. He was 20 something, and his girlfriend in the passenger seat close to me was smoking hot! So... at the light I simply pumped the gas to let my sidepipes breathe a bit , and his girlfriend's mouth just dropped, and she started smiling ear to ear as she checked my car out - I am 33 so any attention I get from a hottie young 20something is fantastic. When things quieted down, I hear her tell him "that dudes car is hot, it sounds incredible - you should buy one of those someday" I chuckled as I drove off thinking about that hot young 20 something... :o