Put my 3" on inside of glass just above my inspection sticker on left side of car.Have POW-MIA on other side.

 

ALRIGHT GATOR !!!! I quess to got "THE LETTER" also. . In my case, even if they tried, they can't get water from a rock. It's great to hear from you. Hope to see you in Janurary. I will have more shirts.

 

I was just wearing my Tshirt yesterday ... working on my gas tank restoration.

Oh wait .. I'm a member (NCRS), but I'm not a dick.

Maybe I won't renew my membership next time around.
It really is a great organization, but moments like this make me
wonder (and hate lawyers more).
I'll be in for a sweatshirt ... for sure.

PAUL - you didn't get a letter ? You coined the expression !!!

 

If anyone has a fax and a scanner and the knowledge to post the letter, I will be more than happy to fax them the letter to post here to show everyone.

 

Norm, just take a picture(s) of the letter and upload 'em.
No scanner needed - just digital camera.

-Dave

 

You wore "THE SHIRT" working on your car

 

Umm ... actually washing the gas tank in my downstairs bathtub.
Is that OK ? It's not even dirty, as the tank was already sanded down
clean ... just etching and rinsing it out.

I have 2, and I take very good care of them, Norm.

 

Well going to my Club meeting @ The Roadkill (Roadhouse) Grill. Uh OH!!! Another letter on its way I will be wearing my shirt.

 

I'm in for a couple of t-shirts and stickers. Just let me know when you are taking orders.

 

it's not quite that way around here. I and every other Corvette enthusiast I know appreciates a Corvette that is 100% restored. But NONE OF THEM like the NCRS mentality.

There is a difference between the two.

 

 

I'm a little confused here. I had already decided that I could not legally use the "Not Correcly Restored Stingray" emblem on my 68 because previous threads have convinced me that my 68 is not a Stingray, even tho Chevrolet ads from 1967 referred to the 68 model as a "Sting Ray" .... alas... but now I see the words "Not Correctly Restored Shark" and I think, "There is hope" because my 68 could indeed be considered a shark. This would also exclude all midyears from the "club" which is not really a club, because although they might be "Not Correctly Restored Sting rays" they certainly are NOT "Sharks"...

And I forgot that it actually was Mr Paul Borowski, a fine upstanding master NCRS judge who coined the term "Not Correctly Restored Stingray" either to poke fun at some of the ebay vettes or to describe one of his own vehicles (the other 4 being closer to the factory original standard) (I hope you included that endorsement in your letter! )

 

While this legal proceeding is hogwash, I think the "public"
perception of the National Corvette Restorers Society is
truly misguided.

Perhaps the judging time, when the trained judges are
supposed to determine how original your vette may be, is
a time of **** nitpicking ....
It truly is an organization committed to preserving the history
of Corvette for generations to come. Also, the organization
is very family oriented. Further, I have seen more customized
vettes at NCRS gatherings than at other meets/shows.
I've never experienced anything bad through the NCRS ... until now.

This is a case of lawyer gone crazy ... not organization gone
nuts. Someone is taking the parody personally, and I don't like it.

 

I don't see this as a lawyer gone crazy. Trademark law is a touchy subject. If you use my business name in a related field, even as a parody, and i can prove that this is likely to cause damage either to my good name or simply by confusing potential customers, I HAVE to fight it. Once I choose not to, I already waive certain rights. As frivolous as a lawsuit might sound, I will pursue it to the end to protect my service mark. As I said before, I have done it. Trademarket suits are worth every penny to fight and I would not want to be on the wrong end of one. (especially given the damages I was seeking if party using my name didn't back down).

Where this can get nasty - while the individual making the shirts/stickers may not be able to pay, they are being marketed on this site. That gives the lawyers cause to go after the site owners and seek damages. As to whether they win - can't say, but....

 

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Agreed, I'm on your side guys! No TM or SM means it's legally up for grabs.

 

For as long as I can remember, the term 'sense of humor' IMHO probably doesn't belong in the same sentence as this organization. This thread is a painfully graphic reminder of this observation.

The really funny thing about parodies and graphics like this: The MORE some organization attempts to 'ban' or 'go after' or 'muscle' or 'harass' and 'intimidate' their target into their perception of compliance - the more such parodies gain a voice and have a funny way of 'doubling' their presence on the web. Today 1 site, tomorrow 2, then 4, 8, well you can do the math... The web is kinda funny about that... Just let us know and I'm sure plenty here will 'right-click' copy and paste your parody graphic all over the place! Indeed I suspect many already have.


Embarassed? From what I can tell, they regularly exercise double-standards as to restoration or originality standards or compromise safety in the name of originality on public roads without batting an eye. 'Embarassed' is probably not a description that comes to my mind regarding this entity.

While many of us may rightly be embarassed for them, the last thing I expect is that they themselves will be embarassed over their own actions or admit to any sort of mistake whatsoever. This is an organization that has a long standing tradition if taking itself waaaaaaay to seriously for that.

Ironically this is a grand opportunity for them but being such 'in the box' 'by the book' thinkers they utterly but not suprisingly fail to see the opportunity such a parody affords.


Well over a million Corvettes have been produced and I'd guestimate something in the neighborhood of high 6 figures are currently registered somewhere or other. I think that society is hovering around 20K members most of whom I suspect pay for little more than subscribing to their quarterly pub. Yes a lot of us enjoy an essentially original Corvette but that's not the same as taking it to the ****-retentive extremes the society does. Appreciating or preferring originality and doing so the society's way are not the same thing. If the society were more realistic about living in this millenium and being more inclusive than exclusive they could easily swell their ranks.


For Corvettes the word to use is 'Correct!' - works every time even on the society types. Put me down for one of these PC decals and XL tshirts! Call it: 'Corvette [IN]Correct' maybe?


You hit upon a key point - they are probably more into 'preserving' than restoring and their name is in fact a mis-nomer. Perhaps Restoration should be dropped in favor of Preservation or more accurately, Anachronism. Beyond the quaint family facade, it is an organization whose single signature activity is by definition exclusive as opposed to inclusive. To that end some some individuals and their cars have been given a, shall we say less-than-accomodating society 'treatment'.

 

In my involvement in NCRS I found that the true Corvette restorers and afficionados were far outnumbered by those who were trying to make a few bucks. By a mostly correct car, restore it, Top Flight (TM) it, and make some serious $$$. If NCRS were discredited or brought back down to earth where would these unscrupulous members make their living?
Jeff

 

This makes me want the non-correct version of the NCRS stickers even more. I didn't really give a damn before, but now that NCRS is going after NCRS in a lawsuit, I really want some NCRS stickers so I can make fun of NCRS at our next show.

Where do I get the NCRS stickers ?

 

The only difference between trademarks and service marks are that trademarks apply to goods and service marks apply to services. They both are often grouped together under "trademarks." Registration of marks can be federal through the United States Patent and Trademark Office or can be by state. There are also unregistered common law trademarks.