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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Is it hard on an automatic transmission to either upshift or downshift using the 1st,2nd,and Drive shift positions on the auto shifter? If so, what are the rpm limits I should look out for (especially downshifting I presume) when manually running through the gears on my "89 coupe?

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Go no faster than ~45mph in 2nd.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by engle1147
Go no faster than ~45mph in 2nd.
are you kidding, LOL with my 2.59's I have gone 80 in 2nd wound out of course, for those sucky gears, and the crappy stock tpi that is my most fun gear to play with aor most of the fun driving.
It is ok to shift up at any point, but down shifting on it will kill it eventually I think.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pologreen1
It is ok to shift up at any point, but down shifting on it will kill it eventually I think.
Kill the engine more likely if you over rev on downshift.
You can't over rev a TPI on the upshift; intake takes care of that.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Downshift one gear at a time and you should be fine. Cars have brakes so there is no reason to go down more than one gear.
If you grab the shifter on the highway and downshift to first don't bother asking why you broke something, you will have deserved it.

In other words...don't grab a handful of shifter and yank back on the highway
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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You should do it anyway, but if you start downshifting often, make sure you ritually have your trans serviced every two years or 24K, whichever comes first. I highly recommend getting a shift kit too. I had one put in my truck at 65,000 miles and it's now at 205,000 and just now showing signs of going out...
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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With my '88 I try and not do 3-2 above 100mph and 2-1 above 50mph as those are just a tad below my upshift points. Also I tap the brake pedal as I'm downshifting to unlock the TCC, reducing stress on the clutches me thinks.
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Thanks for the advice. With the kind of driving I do the need to downshift doesn't come up much. Sometimes it's nice to wind her up a bit in 1st gear before moving on to 2nd. We've got some twisty roads running through some hilly farm land here that makes manually shifting between 1st and 2nd more fun. I usually leave it in 2nd for most of this particular drive. It's hard to find a place to drive around here where I can go faster than 65 or 70 mph, so low end acceleration and spirited cornering provide me the most fun. I've got to watch out for cows and cops in the farm lands and oncoming soccer moms on the 2 lane levy roads.

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The other thing to think about is the heat generated. If I'm on a spirited run, I always turn on the Trans Temp Gauge. If it starts creeping up too high I stop shifting. Had a blast on a controlled lap of Sebring Raceway and was surprised at how fast the Trans temp went up when shifting and how quick it dissipated when I let her do her thing.
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We've got some twisty roads running through some hilly farm land here that makes manually shifting between 1st and 2nd more fun.
A few years ago I ran some Bear Mt. twisites on a copla Corvette cruizes and found 2nd gear served very well, good engine braking and enough accel to run with the "pack".
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 65Z01
With my '88 I try and not do 3-2 above 100mph and 2-1 above 50mph as those are just a tad below my upshift points. Also I tap the brake pedal as I'm downshifting to unlock the TCC, reducing stress on the clutches me thinks.
WOW100mph in 2nd gear I thought I was pushing it at like 80 something:o
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When I was still breaking in my motor last fall I'd push about 70-75 in second, then 110 in drive. All on a closed course, of course. I'm sure people in the next county could hear me hitting 5500+ RPM.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pologreen1
WOW100mph in 2nd gear I thought I was pushing it at like 80 something:o
Yeah I damn near hit 80mph in first in my LT-1, Second can get over 100mph, but I sure as hell wouldn't downshift at those speeds.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Just for reference here's the modified shift points in my 95's PCM for the 4L60E.

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I'm always paranoid to manually shift my A4
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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To answer your question,on a stock A4,yes, it is hard on it.
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Originally Posted by pologreen1
are you kidding, LOL with my 2.59's I have gone 80 in 2nd wound out of course, for those sucky gears, and the crappy stock tpi that is my most fun gear to play with aor most of the fun driving.
It is ok to shift up at any point, but down shifting on it will kill it eventually I think.

I've got a '93 LT1 with the retarded 2.59s, I leave it in 2nd for everything except the interstate, have for years. It doesn't even affect the mileage. I think the only bad thing is downshifting, because you can't match revs, stupid automatic.
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Originally Posted by psychodiagnostik

I've got a '93 LT1 with the retarded 2.59s, I leave it in 2nd for everything except the interstate, have for years. It doesn't even affect the mileage. I think the only bad thing is downshifting, because you can't match revs, stupid automatic.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Even with a shift kit I was told only to shift up through the gears and not back through them while slowing down, twice as much wear I suppose.
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