Sold out.
Team Owner
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
yes, it would be (very) unfair to include ZR1.
Le Mans Master
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From: The Motor City
Joe,
I hope the sale went well and you were able to get what you were asking for the car.
We have had some good conversations, and it has always been good talking with you.
I expect that you stay in touch, I'll check you out over at TGO.
Take care,
Mick
*post some pics of the new project when you can*
I hope the sale went well and you were able to get what you were asking for the car.
We have had some good conversations, and it has always been good talking with you.
I expect that you stay in touch, I'll check you out over at TGO.
Take care,
Mick
*post some pics of the new project when you can*
Le Mans Master
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From: Jenks OK
I don't think the intention of my post was to insult or start a war.
I accept the fact that C4's are really nice handling cars, and a ZR-1 is quick for an older car. To each their own, and it's all good.
My position was it seemed to cost way to much (around $22k) to build a 500HP c4, and I still wasn't happy with it. It was my money, so my choice to move on. I understand why a lot of guys are happy with C4's because their goals are different and that is fine. My cousin has a really nice 1990 that is all stock, and a flawless car. If I wanted a stock daily driver, I'd get another Corvette in a heart beat.
Owning and maintaining a modified Corvette just wasn't cost effective to me. To start racing the car, and break big money parts every weekend just didn't make sense. And while 375hp is GREAT and ultra fast for a daily driver, I usually run 500hp cars. So again, big bucks to get where I wanted to go.
So with that said, I'm glad I got to know a lot of you guys. The Corvette will leave a lasting impression on my life.
-- Joe
I accept the fact that C4's are really nice handling cars, and a ZR-1 is quick for an older car. To each their own, and it's all good.
My position was it seemed to cost way to much (around $22k) to build a 500HP c4, and I still wasn't happy with it. It was my money, so my choice to move on. I understand why a lot of guys are happy with C4's because their goals are different and that is fine. My cousin has a really nice 1990 that is all stock, and a flawless car. If I wanted a stock daily driver, I'd get another Corvette in a heart beat.
Owning and maintaining a modified Corvette just wasn't cost effective to me. To start racing the car, and break big money parts every weekend just didn't make sense. And while 375hp is GREAT and ultra fast for a daily driver, I usually run 500hp cars. So again, big bucks to get where I wanted to go.
So with that said, I'm glad I got to know a lot of you guys. The Corvette will leave a lasting impression on my life.
-- Joe
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From: Palm Coast Florida
I've had a '69 Firebird since 1980. It's a 400 convertible, with all options available in '69 except cruise control and power driver's seat. I have the window sticker and everything, and it's just turned 66,000 miles. I don't drive it because I don't want to put miles on it, and it's just really not very much fun to drive. I've done a lot of work to it - I spend a grand or two every year just maintaining it. But still the brakes aren't great, it has a ton of body roll, the seats don't hold you in a turn. It's just a pretty face to take when you go out.
So I bought the Corvette to drive. This is the best car I've ever owned. I've had alot of cars that are considered great cars - but they aren't. People let brands names overshadow whether a car is really good or not. People also tend to hate anything American and think anything foreign must be better. In truth the C4 is a bargain for the price. I've never owned one of the earlier cars but my '93 has plenty of power and has always been reliable. Plus it gets about double the mileage that the Firebird does and will outrun it.
So I bought the Corvette to drive. This is the best car I've ever owned. I've had alot of cars that are considered great cars - but they aren't. People let brands names overshadow whether a car is really good or not. People also tend to hate anything American and think anything foreign must be better. In truth the C4 is a bargain for the price. I've never owned one of the earlier cars but my '93 has plenty of power and has always been reliable. Plus it gets about double the mileage that the Firebird does and will outrun it.
Safety Car
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11
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From: Pennsylvania
Joe, I recently restored my 1968 Firebird 400 convertible. Top to bottom. It was one of the easiest cars I've done. It turned out beautiful. Teal with a white top and black interior. All stock appearing right down to the ralley II wheels, hood tach and even the optional front and rear spoilers. They were only special order back in 68. All the parts were very easy to come by and not too bad on the wallet. 400 cubic inches, 390 positraction, turbo transmission, and 750 cfm carb. What a ride. I hope your 67 gives you as much pleasure as my 68 does. As far as selling your C4, I'm sure it wasn't easy as they too are great cars. All of them. All years. If you need any info on parts for the Bird, give me a PM.
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Safety Car
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From: Salem NH
I've had a '69 Firebird since 1980. It's a 400 convertible, with all options available in '69 except cruise control and power driver's seat. I have the window sticker and everything, and it's just turned 66,000 miles. I don't drive it because I don't want to put miles on it, and it's just really not very much fun to drive. I've done a lot of work to it - I spend a grand or two every year just maintaining it. But still the brakes aren't great, it has a ton of body roll, the seats don't hold you in a turn. It's just a pretty face to take when you go out.
So I bought the Corvette to drive. This is the best car I've ever owned. I've had alot of cars that are considered great cars - but they aren't. People let brands names overshadow whether a car is really good or not. People also tend to hate anything American and think anything foreign must be better. In truth the C4 is a bargain for the price. I've never owned one of the earlier cars but my '93 has plenty of power and has always been reliable. Plus it gets about double the mileage that the Firebird does and will outrun it.
So I bought the Corvette to drive. This is the best car I've ever owned. I've had alot of cars that are considered great cars - but they aren't. People let brands names overshadow whether a car is really good or not. People also tend to hate anything American and think anything foreign must be better. In truth the C4 is a bargain for the price. I've never owned one of the earlier cars but my '93 has plenty of power and has always been reliable. Plus it gets about double the mileage that the Firebird does and will outrun it.
Thanks for the info.
The '67 I'm thinking of doing has disc brakes, ford 9", subframes, etc. I'd probably replace the seats with some track seats and 4 points, a sbc with blower, and TKO trans.
According to data I've read, a base v8 firebird in 1967 was 3000 lbs.
I'm thinking, for a minimal investment make a solid street / strip car.
The C4 cost so much I was afraid to brake it at the track.
-- Joe
Le Mans Master
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From: Jenks OK
Thanks for the info.
The '67 I'm thinking of doing has disc brakes, ford 9", subframes, etc. I'd probably replace the seats with some track seats and 4 points, a sbc with blower, and TKO trans.
According to data I've read, a base v8 firebird in 1967 was 3000 lbs.
I'm thinking, for a minimal investment make a solid street / strip car.
The C4 cost so much I was afraid to brake it at the track.
-- Joe
The '67 I'm thinking of doing has disc brakes, ford 9", subframes, etc. I'd probably replace the seats with some track seats and 4 points, a sbc with blower, and TKO trans.
According to data I've read, a base v8 firebird in 1967 was 3000 lbs.
I'm thinking, for a minimal investment make a solid street / strip car.
The C4 cost so much I was afraid to brake it at the track.
-- Joe
Safety Car
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Antioch Ca
Finalist 2020 C4 of the Year - Unmodified
I wish you good luck and fun with the 'bird. I myself am a fan of Trans Ams and I happen to own two of them. Don't be a stranger, we need to keep the C4 roster as full as possible here in the C4 section.
Le Mans Master
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From: Seattle Area WA
As long as you're having fun, who really cares what make it is.
Hopefully you can stay around here and continue to contribute, your knowledge is a valuable asset.
If not, well I'll just have to come harass you on TGO.
Hopefully you can stay around here and continue to contribute, your knowledge is a valuable asset.
If not, well I'll just have to come harass you on TGO.
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I have a nagging feeling you'll be back before all's said and done. I've yet to meet a **** who only owned one 'Vette, (C4 or not) in their lifetime. These things are like Lay's potato chips; NO ONE can eat just one!
Good luck on your project car!
Good luck on your project car!
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Safety Car
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From: Salem NH
For a race car, I'll never use a Corvette again. It's not economical.
Think about it. For a strip car, the corvette is all wrong. The parts are 3 times as much as normal car parts, and you end up replacing things that make it a corvette (like IRS to a straight axle), etc.. So you end up with a car that says "Corvette" but is probably closer to a vega or a mustang when you are done.
Better off keep the Corvette for cruising and corners, and build something else for the track.
-- Joe
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Good luck!
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11
Thanks for the info.
The '67 I'm thinking of doing has disc brakes, ford 9", subframes, etc. I'd probably replace the seats with some track seats and 4 points, a sbc with blower, and TKO trans.
According to data I've read, a base v8 firebird in 1967 was 3000 lbs.
I'm thinking, for a minimal investment make a solid street / strip car.
The C4 cost so much I was afraid to brake it at the track.
-- Joe
The '67 I'm thinking of doing has disc brakes, ford 9", subframes, etc. I'd probably replace the seats with some track seats and 4 points, a sbc with blower, and TKO trans.
According to data I've read, a base v8 firebird in 1967 was 3000 lbs.
I'm thinking, for a minimal investment make a solid street / strip car.
The C4 cost so much I was afraid to brake it at the track.
-- Joe
