Do you guys no this is a Corvette forum, if you don't like em and prefer the European styles you can always turn your pointy little shoes , pick up your murses and head over to their sites. lol

 

Well said, dear boy

lol didn't know anybody was trying to be funny.

It's called a ****ing FANNY PACK!!!!

hehe. If I could comfortably buy a Ferrari, I'd be on ferrarichat in a heartbeat. Until that day comes, I suppose my awesome z51 will have to suffice

 

I didn't no(sic) that. Thanks!

 

I bought my first Vette, a 93 six speed, 5 months ago. I like it a lot. Without a doubt, the best bang for the buck. That is the main reason I chose to buy it over other options. But that doesn't mean that I forfeit the right to criticize or that I'm going to turn a blind eye to the shortcomings.

 

Now when you say "hard right turn", is that a hard right Corvette turn, or a hard right Ferrari turn?

 

Well that's deep. First we have the variation of the "this is America, love it or leave" post. (i.e. replace the word America with Corvette forum) & now we have this unspecific rambling video clip which criticizes everything without saying anything. Perhaps somebody would now like to call someone else a **** & we'll have dragged this thread to rock bottom.

 

Not quite.
Buick GNX, Firebird GTA, GMC Syclone\Typhoon, C4 ZRI.
Mustang LX 5.0, IROC Z, Shellby GLH.
A stock C4 from a stop would leave it also and not look back.
I agree if you are a Great driver and Know how to shift you could get those Numbers out of the 328, but in the C4 with just a Auto all you have to do is floor it and get consistant Sub 6 second times.
The passing power I agree would favor the 328 But look at the Grand Ma gears they put in the C4 's ( to keep the MPG's low).

 

You know what, you win...............your list leaves me speechless.

 

Excuuuuse us! You opened dis here can o' worms!

And, I believe the premise of your opener was the ubiquitous 1/4 mile times trumps ALL...which is too often echoed by a preponderance of posters here - without a thought to "what else" should be considered, towit:

I guess the point is how unfair and very narrow minded it is to evaluate a splendid piece of automotive machinery; the 328 Ferrari (in this example) by "casting dispersions" upon it because of 1/4 mile performance. If that's the case, we should throw out the fact the SCCA tossed the Corvette out of the road course contests in order to let some other cars win and trash talk the L98 (as many do!) because Mustangs or diesel trucks (for that matter) beat them in 1/4 mile contests. And, by the same logic, I guess according to a co-worker my ZR-1 is a POS because it won't beat his tubbed n gutted BBC Nova in the quarter, right? I doan tink sooooo!

Well said, my friend.

 

What is incongruous about your thoughts on the Ferrari 328 is that Ferrari was one of the manufacturers (along with Porsche and Nissan) that complained to the SCCA that the Corvette was TOO dominant in SHOWROOM STOCK racing in the late 80s and should be banned (a race class with NO modifications over what can be purchased off the show room floor). Since the 328 was obviously the showroom stock Ferrari competing in showroom stock, your thoughts that the higher RPM torque and “better handling” should have made it the better car for that race series – yet – it wasn’t.

 

Really? You're going to compare a naturally aspirated engine to a twin turbo? If that's the cse, why is the 288 so weak? F1 engines from the 80s produced over 1200 HP from 1.5L (see we can get absurd too).

As for the piggy ZR-1, does that also make the modern Ferrari 430 a piggy too? How about the super-piggy F12 berlinetta at over 300 lbs more than a ZR-1. Both are considered high speed touring cars.

 

Yet again you are ****ing lost. Do you not read? I dont give a rats *** what the best thing America could concoct at the time, did against the puniest Ferrari built at the time. The same as I dont care about a corvette racing a honda civic.

 

"Yet again" presupposes that I previously posted in this thread. Perhaps you should review the thread before making such inane posts.

Also, it's very clear you you DO care about the Corvette/328 comparison given your active participation in this thread which started with a direct Corvette/328 comparison.

 

Keep it civil gentlemen. Attack ideas, not each other or I'll lock it down.

 

So is it's now a Splendid Piece of Machinery when it gets smoked by well pretty much anything GM made with a Turbo apparently, in the 80s, a stock C4, in a 1/4 made for "other stuff!" when we were using the 1/4 as a metric previously as a "Corvette Killer!". Nice goal post shifting there... and now it's a Splendid Machine...and yet not even 20 posts ago it was a "Bottom of the barrel Ferrari". Which is it?

 

Both.

It IS an awesome machine. If you ever drove one, you'd "get it"...but you don't.

It also IS Ferrari's cheapest/entry level/bottom-of-the-line model at that time.

What is hard to understand about this? Of course, none of this has anything to do w/the OP.

 

And yet Ferrari felt confident enough to take the 328 racing against the other marques didn't they?

They never sicced the F40 on the Showroom Stock Series (neither did Chevy sic the ZR-1, or hell even the Callaway).

Here's food for thought. the "Bottom of the barrel Ferrari" isn't good enough to even hang with a Turbo Ta (fun fact the Gen 3 Fbodies several times were described as "One of the best handling cars on the road ever made" by Car and Driver in the 80s, even during the C4's tenure) the Gen 3 F Cars didn't lose that much on the skid pad to the C4, (and most of that was in tire width. Slap C4 9.5s on a Gen3 and hollly hell what a gain it gets. 89 TA. .83 G Vette? .89 in 89 stock to stock) you throw down the Turbo TA around a track and I bet it'd beat a 328 around Laguna, Easy. So GMs "poor Mans Corvette" would probably Face Trounce the 328. It sure as hell does it in such a degree in any straight line, that I really doubt the 328s "handling" (which got beat by the C4) could make up for it, there's that much of a gap just getting to sixty mph.

You were one of the people talking big about how the 328 was faster than a C4 in a straight line so obviously that metric held merit.

Obviously it doesn't since that one got shot in the face pretty hard.

So I'll go out on a limb with the turbo TA (Which would handle better than the 5.0 and 5.7 cars since it IS lighter by somewhere around 50lbs in the Front of the car no less), would probably walk the dog on a 328 around a road course.

Just getting to sixty, with the 328 vs the TA, there's already over a second gap between them in favor of the TA. That is a TON of ground to make up.

 

Friends don't let friends drive Ferraris.

 

^Der. Really man, that is your contribution here? Yikes.

No friend of mine would prevent me from driving a Ferrari. In fact, my best friends have HELPED me get into various Ferrari's, and I'm better off for it. Because of those experiences, I know better than to post stupid, junk like the above.

 

I'm not hating on Ferrari's (all of them) but the 328... is well junk Best things out of Ferrari in that Era were the F40 and the 512 TR. Their 90s cars were much better (mm F50).

And I'd love to get my hands on a 458 Italia someday (Now THAT is a car I'm not so much a fan of the F430 I don't think it's looks are anywhere in the same league as a 458)