Boxster....... you're still gay, you just have more money than those Miata guys.

 

I've been around 911 guys, and they will tell you that Boxters are the
women's Porsche. If you have a Boxter, and go to a 911 GTG be ready for
some hardcore hazing.

 

I'll tell what will kill an early C4. A mid to late 80's Porsche 928 ran away from me when we got to 100mph like I was standing still.
Also a late 80's V12 bmw 750i

 

I just had a thought...

I wonder if a guy could market a conversion to make a Ferrari look like a C4 in Europe. That and some engine mods might get the Prancing Pony up to speed, so to speak.

One point that has no business in this thread (besides the last one I made) is that the Corvette, like no other car ever has or ever will, personifies the USA swagger-kick-in-the-***-go-fast-and-make-noise-steak-and-potatos exceptionalism that makes us what we are. I, for one, am quite proud to mash the pedal and enthusiastically careen down miles of empty roads through rolling wheat fields and cattle ranches. And, I can buy tuneup parts at WalMart if I want! Brakes? I don't need no stinking brakes. I'd worry about cornering abilities too if my country were shaped like a small boot.

 

So true. But it seems that a small group on this forum, by their own opinions, are more true to imports than Corvettes. Always trying to prove how much better or faster the "other" car is over the American made Vette. Sometimes they're better in fact. Sometimes they're not. Oh well. The Corvette is still the soul behind this forum. Maybe that's because they've been around for years and most every normal kid grows up wanting to have one day.

 

yep...

... and yep.

Like I said. Bottom of the barrel. Not accepted as a true "porsche" by the real porsche owners.

The corvette is great at what it is... cheap performance. And you get what you pay for. Would I much rather have a 911 turbo or any flavor Ferrari? Um, yes. Would I like to drop $100k + for said vehicle, um no

 

have a look at the interior of the 328 for the money that they cost, Amish buggys are more lavish.

 

Year for year, the Corvette, a mass produced sports car, has been very competitive with any production car in the world, and could beat most in the stock form. For a few thousand dollars can be modified to beat most of the rest. The irony of this thread is that is that most people missed the point that the Ferrari guy was comparing his car to a corvette.

 

End of story.

 

And really....the Corvette is sooo much more than a pretty good 1/4 miler. And, for those that would like to have a taste, check out the Mountain Run (thread) where for 3 days preceding the BG gathering, C4s are going to gather and spend 3 days carving up some of the most beautiful roads in the country, ending up on Wed night in Bowling Green at the C4 gathering. After that, if you were previously focused on the Corvette only in terms of 1/4 times, your perspective will become much broader!

 

I think you just brought a tear to my eye. I am in the military and this the kind of things I will dodge bullets to defend

 

Thank you for your service so the rest of us can enjoy or Corvettes and freedoms.

 

Haven't been paying too much attention to lap times around Laguna Seca or Willow Springs have you?

So how bad do you think a 700+ horsepower Ferrari stomps a 460 horsepower C7? Apparently just by .24 seconds.
http://fastestlaps.com/laptimes/4ff66561e27cf.html

Sure are getting what you pay for....considering a ZO6 ZO7 will run it in 1:34 and is down 200+ horsepower...
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html

Yep.. that's really getting what you pay for alright. For that kind of money, I'd be embarrassed if I were showing up on a track, and the ZO6 stomps you one that hard and walks it dry.

Sure if I cared about interior quality from the factory, the Ferrari and P cars (until the C7 at least) make the Vette look low rent. But I don't I care more about the car's ability to put up or shut up. And if we're talking All In, it doesn't get better than the Vette.

Let's face it it's alot easier to purty up an interior in a Corvette than it is to make a Ferrari go faster (Nitrous aside). And with the bank saved by buying into a Vette... you can purty up that interior, double the horsepower and still have money to spare, versus buying the Ferrari.

Ferrari makes wonderful cars. But they haven't been king since the C5 ZO6. Let alone now where they play Backmarkers for the real speed kings...with 700 horsepower cars no less.

The F and P car crowd I'm sure will default to the old "Oh but it FEELS better!" argument. To wit: If you're driving fast, and you've been driving that car for a while you should KNOW what it's going to do at any given point regardless of it's feelsies. Sure coming into a car dead cold feelsies matter alot more. But after that dead cold period's over? the car's actual potential matters more. And in the case of the C7, it's been stated over and over that it's feelsies as well as it's speed are as good or better than the 911s. (and superior to the F12s)

In the case of the C4, we all know these cars provide loads of feedback (too much at times). And given how dirt cheap these cars are vs the ferraris of the same year, gimme the C4 anyday of the week.

 

FYI, there is more to the Ferrari experience than the interior. Although, the interiors are gorgeous.

 

For the most part there's the exterior too (I think the F12 is Fugly like the F430 was though... so the styling seems to be going hit or miss to me since the 2000s at least... cause I drool over a 458)

And that unique sound of the Ferrari engines winding up at high rpm. Which is quite possibly the only high RPM under 5.7 liter engines that I like the sound of.

I'd love to own a Ferrari some day. I'd be terrified to drive it (too many idiots on the road, expense of repairs), but I'd love to own one.

Which is alot more impressive than it sounds, since I don't like most cars made outside the US. Italy Gets It or at least Ferrari and Lamborghini, the Brits do sometimes even though they aren't burn burners (There are a couple Jags on my Must have list like this XKR or the Aston DB7 or any TVR)

The germans make some seriously Fugly cars, in addition to them being slow for the money. (any porsche that isn't the Carrera GT... any BMW that wasn't the Z3 ((which is still slow for the money)), any Mercedes that isn't the Mclaren SLR)

It says alot that, that there ARE Ferraris I'd be all over if I got the chance The 328 just isn't one of them.

 

The ferrari berlinetta you are comparing that corvette to... is a luxury car. Thats like comparing a pontiac g8 to a Ferrari.

Oh... wait.


Anywho, Ferrari is in a completely different class, but feel free to try to keep comparing

Going by your logic, I can just buy a civic Si and put on some fat turbo's and beat ALL of those cars and pocket even more money

 

A Pontiac G8 is/was a 2-door luxury car?? I think the F12 qualifies as a GT coupe.

CTS-V Coupe might be a little better example.

 

Sure, cts-v works

 

The Sebring 12H didn't bode well... Course there's a lot of racing left. But, when the green flag drops the BS stops!

GTLM class:


Not exactly a stellar performance for the Chevrolet Corvette teams in the GTLM class at the Sebring 12H race on Saturday. Well, hopefully Corvette will fair better in coming events, as it is always best for the moniker (read: sales!) to lead the pack.

1. Porsche 911 RSR
2. RT Viper GTS-R
3. BMW Z4 GTE
4. Ferrari F458 Italia
5. Porsche 911 RSR
6. #4 Chevrolet Corvette C7.R 1 -lap +67.45 sec back of leader*
7. SRT Viper GTS-R
8. #3 Chevrolet Corvette C7.R = another -2 laps behind the #4 C7R*
9. Porsche 911 RSR
10. BMW Z4 GTE
11. Ferrari F458 Italia

 

It's a GT Coupe Car. (A market the Corvette by the way has down pretty well). And all the same Ferrari was willing to throw it down against the C7. And frankly it embarrassed itself and Ferrari alike.

What Class? The Slow one? Because their quickest car the 458 Italia, is over 2 seconds a lap slower than a C6 ZO6 ZO7 and that's not even the fastest Corvette.

If I'm buying for looks and speed leaning more on the former, yes I'd get a 458 before a C6 ZO6 or ZR1. If performance is dictating 60 percent of better of the reason I'm buying the car... that 458 is taking the non existent backseat to the Corvette.