Oh boy, now you've got them really mad! 
......
corvette killer ?????
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"Yet again" presupposes that I previously posted in this thread. Perhaps you should review the thread before making such inane posts.
Also, it's very clear you you DO care about the Corvette/328 comparison given your active participation in this thread which started with a direct Corvette/328 comparison.
Also, it's very clear you you DO care about the Corvette/328 comparison given your active participation in this thread which started with a direct Corvette/328 comparison.
I'm not hating on Ferrari's (all of them) but the 328... is well junk 
Best things out of Ferrari in that Era were the F40 and the 512 TR. Their 90s cars were much better (mm F50).
And I'd love to get my hands on a 458 Italia someday (Now THAT is a car
I'm not so much a fan of the F430 I don't think it's looks are anywhere in the same league as a 458)
Best things out of Ferrari in that Era were the F40 and the 512 TR. Their 90s cars were much better (mm F50). And I'd love to get my hands on a 458 Italia someday (Now THAT is a car
I'm not so much a fan of the F430 I don't think it's looks are anywhere in the same league as a 458)
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It's a classic Ferrari, it is what it is. Just about anyone seriously looking into this car aren't looking to "kill" Corvettes.
If going fast was what I wanted, I would skip this deal and go buy a used Z06 and put the other twenty grand away.
If going fast was what I wanted, I would skip this deal and go buy a used Z06 and put the other twenty grand away.
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Lol about you calling a 328 "junk". I'd like to see you drive one and say that (honestly).
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I dont know about "ultimate" (They only run high 12's stock :P ), but they sure are some handling ****'s.
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Interesting debate. (Should subside as soon as all this friggin snow and salt is gone?)
It may come as a surprise to anyone but a ZR-1 driver, but the "casting of dispersions" on Ferrari comes very close to this same kind of "dispersions" ZR-1 (LT5s) get from the "LSx" crowd. Talk about haters!
In fact, as Dave McLellan said, the LT5 stuck its finger in a lot of (GM Powertrain engineer's) eyes. In fact, when you visit GM Powertrain, in the lobby there is one of every motor GM built, but for one very conspicuously missing motor that to this day gives GMs contemporary motors pause - the LT5! And, truth be known, it produces power (under the curve) in much the same way as the DOHC Ferraris do: smooth and continuous beyond the rpm range seldom experienced by "99%" of GM drivers. (And, like driving a Ferrari, you really can't dis one until you've dropped the hammer on one yourself. THEN you'll understand!
) But, I digress...
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Boxster S 0-60 4.5-4.7 seconds
1/4 12.7 @109.7
Not bad for a bottom of the barrel, slowest-Porsche-available, eh? And certainly not bad considering the boxster is built for handling and not straight line (like all of European cars...)
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche...mph-Times.html
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/porsche_boxster_s_981.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._s_first_test/
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...767882a0c0.pdf
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A few seconds off? I beg to differ.
Boxster S 0-60 4.5-4.7 seconds
1/4 12.7 @109.7
Not bad for a bottom of the barrel, slowest-Porsche-available, eh? And certainly not bad considering the boxster is built for handling and not straight line (like all of European cars...)
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche...mph-Times.html
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/porsche_boxster_s_981.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._s_first_test/
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...767882a0c0.pdf
Boxster S 0-60 4.5-4.7 seconds
1/4 12.7 @109.7
Not bad for a bottom of the barrel, slowest-Porsche-available, eh? And certainly not bad considering the boxster is built for handling and not straight line (like all of European cars...)
http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche...mph-Times.html
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/porsche_boxster_s_981.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._s_first_test/
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...767882a0c0.pdf
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Well, that isn't bad and it's faster than I recall Boxter's being. However, it's still not going to keep up with these bottom-of-the-model-range cars....
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Back in 92' I almost bought one of these. It had a great price and the mileage was only 17k. I did a little research and was told that these had a weird cam drive gear made out of some kind of composite material or maybe it was belts to reduce gear whine in the interior. They had a habit of wearing out after about 15k miles. When they failed it would skip timing and bend most the valves. I asked the owner if he had his replaced and he gave me one of those "I've been caught" looks and said no. I checked into the price and found out that because it was a mid engine car the engine had to be removed to replace the gear/belts. To remove the engine most of the car had to be taken apart. I can't remember the quoted price but it was beyond anything I would have ever suspected. I ended up buying an 89' six speed C4 instead and I'm really glad I did.
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I doubt that the 'Vetter IS "America's top car" anymore anyways. It certainly used to be...it was test bed for technology, but it sure seems like Cadillac is where all the Tech and amenities is going now days. And that is fine. But Porsche>Corvette, is really a comparison of one of VAG's better cars, to one of GM's better cars.
Or should it be ?
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