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I didn't see a recent post on this so I figured I would ask. I have a 96 and plain don't feel safe with the stock headlights at night in the rain. Has anyone used Xtralights? How's the quality and is the installation easy? Plug and Play?
I used glass rectangular lamps, as fitted to 1997 Jeep Wrangler (I believe). The lens pattern is way better. I use standard H4 halogen bulbs, but high wattage, and they're an absolute transformation without costing a fortune. Plus, they look stock. The only downside is the extra weight, which may cause extra wear on the headlight motor gears.
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I'm assuming the UK lights which dip to the left and were fitted to my European-spec car had a similar lens to US cars.
This is stupid. Why isn't anyone just grounding the fog light relay coil somewhere besides the headlight high beam circuit ? Is it really that critical for the fog lights to shut off automatically why you turn on the high beams ? Why cant the driver just push the fog light button manually to turn them off. I gotta say having an additional resistor or (unbelievable) an actual marker light bulb as a resistor seems crazy to me.
This is stupid. Why isn't anyone just grounding the fog light relay coil somewhere besides the headlight high beam circuit ? Is it really that critical for the fog lights to shut off automatically why you turn on the high beams ? Why cant the driver just push the fog light button manually to turn them off. I gotta say having an additional resistor or (unbelievable) an actual marker light bulb as a resistor seems crazy to me.
It's the way it is built. It wasn't built to handle a LED bulb since they draw much less power. Much like my other cars might detect a faulty bulb. So either put up with it the way it now operates, do the Circuit Doctor mod or have a nice clean resistor. So how tolerant are you?
It's the way it is built. It wasn't built to handle a LED bulb since they draw much less power. Much like my other cars might detect a faulty bulb. So either put up with it the way it now operates, do the Circuit Doctor mod or have a nice clean resistor. So how tolerant are you?
That doesn't make any sense. I don't see why you cant just ground the fog light relay coil somewhere besides through the high beam headlight circuit. Maybe there is a very good reason, but I doubt it. Sooner or later I'm going to be doing this mod to my car and ill post how this craziness should be handled, but this crap with a marker light bulb and resistors and so on, is nonsense.
That doesn't make any sense. I don't see why you cant just ground the fog light relay coil somewhere besides through the high beam headlight circuit. Maybe there is a very good reason, but I doubt it. Sooner or later I'm going to be doing this mod to my car and ill post how this craziness should be handled, but this crap with a marker light bulb and resistors and so on, is nonsense.
If you are willing to look up the circuit and find the right wire to ground, I agree. OTOH, I wanted it in and not to screw with it anymore. Between driving the car and fixing it, driving it wins. I just bought the resistor and installed and was done with it. How much effort are you willing to put into the project?
If you are willing to look up the circuit and find the right wire to ground, I agree. OTOH, I wanted it in and not to screw with it anymore. Between driving the car and fixing it, driving it wins. I just bought the resistor and installed and was done with it. How much effort are you willing to put into the project?
It is virtually certain it took longer to scab the resistors in place than it would to just ground the relay coil somewhere, anywhere. Plus, the issue with the fog lights being inop if your high beams fail is still present.
It is virtually certain it took longer to scab the resistors in place than it would to just ground the relay coil somewhere, anywhere.
Plus, the issue with the fog lights being inop if your high beams fail is still present.
And hence I bought the resistor set which is Plug & Play. You have to remove the bulb and that goes inline without grounding anything.
Don't know. AFAIK, you can't have high beams and fog lights. No car I have allows that combination so if you want that, you will have to wire it separately.
And hence I bought the resistor set which is Plug & Play. You have to remove the bulb and that goes inline without grounding anything.
Don't know. AFAIK, you can't have high beams and fog lights. No car I have allows that combination so if you want that, you will have to wire it separately.
There's no wiring anything separately. All that's needed is to ground the relay coil somewhere besides the high beam headlight power supply circuit. Turning on the high beam lites applies power to the what is normally the ground circuit for the fog lite relay coil, so the fog lites go out when you turn on the high beams. So the obvious answer is to ground it somewhere else. Not that I even care about any of that. I just don't want to be dorking around with a stupid marker light bulb or a resistor somewhere that clearly doesn't belong.
There's no wiring anything separately. All that's needed is to ground the relay coil somewhere besides the high beam headlight power supply circuit. Turning on the high beam lites applies power to the what is normally the ground circuit for the fog lite relay coil, so the fog lites go out when you turn on the high beams. So the obvious answer is to ground it somewhere else. Not that I even care about any of that. I just don't want to be dorking around with a stupid marker light bulb or a resistor somewhere that clearly doesn't belong.
I agree grounding the relay was super easy with the FSM. I installed the Truck Lite LEDs and grounding the relay was easier than installing the actual headlights! Also installing the resistors does not take advantage of the LEDs low current draw on the factory wiring. Grounding the relay allows the driving lights to be on with the high beams.
Last edited by grandspt; Nov 15, 2017 at 05:42 AM.