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There's no wiring anything separately. All that's needed is to ground the relay coil somewhere besides the high beam headlight power supply circuit. Turning on the high beam lites applies power to the what is normally the ground circuit for the fog lite relay coil, so the fog lites go out when you turn on the high beams. So the obvious answer is to ground it somewhere else. Not that I even care about any of that. I just don't want to be dorking around with a stupid marker light bulb or a resistor somewhere that clearly doesn't belong.
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I agree grounding the relay was super easy with the FSM. I installed the Truck Lite LEDs and grounding the relay was easier than installing the actual headlights! Also installing the resistors does not take advantage of the LEDs low current draw on the factory wiring. Grounding the relay allows the driving lights to be on with the high beams.
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May be out of style and date, I went with a set of Hella headlights. great quality and I can see to drive at night. Yeah there are heavy made out of real glass and are very effective. Easy to install, easy to replace the bulb if and when needed....
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I need the minimum of running lights (no headlights) and fog lights for foggy situations. I might turn on the low beams (obviously with running lights) with the fog lights but even if I could, I wouldn't do high beams with fog lights in fog situation. In my experience the high beam seems to reflect off the fog way too much that it makes it harder to see. Low beams are an acceptable compromise between being seen by others and you being able to see without the light reflecting in an annoying manner. Just what is comfortable for me. YMMV
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I agree grounding the relay was super easy with the FSM. I installed the Truck Lite LEDs and grounding the relay was easier than installing the actual headlights! Also installing the resistors does not take advantage of the LEDs low current draw on the factory wiring. Grounding the relay allows the driving lights to be on with the high beams.
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First, you probably actually needed the resistors for your speakers. Second, I haven't actually done this project yet, partially because (until now) I didn't understand the requirements. Once I do though, I will update this thread accordingly.
Last edited by PatternDayTrader; Nov 15, 2017 at 09:05 AM.
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I use the hell out of my fogs. Guess I'll have to crack that FSM and do some head scratching.
I'm excited to see the results now. Had been planning to do the E code Hellas, but I was not keen on redoing the wiring for the higher amps. Grounding the fog relay should be a simple fix.
I'm excited to see the results now. Had been planning to do the E code Hellas, but I was not keen on redoing the wiring for the higher amps. Grounding the fog relay should be a simple fix.
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When I installed the JW Speakers I had the resister unit standing by. Just for kicks I tried to just plug in the new bulbs and see if the fogs worked. They did NOT. I installed just one of the two resister units and both fogs worked perfect. Dan
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Maybe Genssi is somehow different. Resistor in either light doesn't help, IIRC. BOTH or none was the answer for my case.
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He writes that you cut the wire 2" from the relay, then attach a 6" length of 18 gauge or better with a ring connector, etc. Okay, I am that guy. The wire is cut in two. To which end do I attach the 6" extension? Relay side, or wherever the other side goes?
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Thanks for that link. I get splicing in the bulb, which I don't want to do. But am still unclear on splicing the ground at the relay.
He writes that you cut the wire 2" from the relay, then attach a 6" length of 18 gauge or better with a ring connector, etc. Okay, I am that guy. The wire is cut in two. To which end do I attach the 6" extension? Relay side, or wherever the other side goes?
He writes that you cut the wire 2" from the relay, then attach a 6" length of 18 gauge or better with a ring connector, etc. Okay, I am that guy. The wire is cut in two. To which end do I attach the 6" extension? Relay side, or wherever the other side goes?
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I couldn't say for sure about the wire colors without the correct wiring schematic. Having said that, I would find the fog lamp relay and ground the coil side somewhere nearby the relay and not under the hood, but that's more personal preference than anything else.